Originally Posted by JetJock16

Yes I did, but I only have 647 hours in it seeing I was only on line from June 06 through the end of Feb 07 when I transitioned to the jet. As for upgrading on it and never have flown it, lots of people have don't it and I've never heard of one failing out. Maybe someone has but it's really not that hard of an a/c to learn. If I were you I’d definitely do it and I’m positive, if you work hard, you’ll make it through and fall in love with the old Switch B1tch as most of us have.

The systems are more similar to the RJ than you think. The electrical system looks identical to the CR2's DC system, just swap the 5 TRU's for 5 gens; 2 main gens, 1 APU gen and 2 AUX gens. The Pneumatic system is identical to the CR7/9 with the 7th/10th auto bleed system but it’s now called P2.5 and P3 air all without the automation. Hydraulic systems are hydraulic systems but now they’re called blue and green and the only FLT control that is hydraulic is the rudder. In other words, systems are systems and most of the RJ's are more automated but each systems fundamental structure stems from the era of the EMB. If I had to pick one system that's overly complicated it would be the props. They're pretty complex but the basics are still there. Oh, and it has far more Gremlins than the RJ and a lot of them can't be fixed by popping a few circuit breakers.

As for flying it? There's a lot of P-Factor which means lots of right rudder on TO and whenever you make a power change you have to adjust the rudder trim, EVERY SINGLE TIME. Some people call it the Left Hand Shuffle for FO’s or the Right Hand Shuffle for CA’s. The Shuffle is basically EVERYTIME you make a power change; you have to move the Power levers, adjust the Rudder Trim and then adjust the Stab Trim. If you want to go from cruise power to idle you just can't pull them straight back, if you do the a/c will yaw pretty hard. You have to work them back while you do the shuffle.

Yes you will have to work unlike the RJ, but IT'S FUN! It's a slick, powerful, fast, conventional twin that looks great, sounds great and fly’s great. It's a very stable platform and it can do some amazing things once you learn how to properly fly it.

You’ll be fine.

Originally Posted by doug_or

As well you should. You'd be able to hold a line pretty quick on the bro after class. Commuting will be pretty horrible, but..... If you get hired on the jet, you could be on reserve for a VERY long time. Since we are overstaffed now we don't need to be running many classes. Many of these vacanccies will be filled by current Bro FOs who will keep you on reserve, and eat up the potential new hire slots that you'd want filled by people junior to you. It would be entirely possible (though I won't go as far as to predict it) for reserve in ORD to approach the 1 year mark for FOs. I'd take a commute to a line over a commute to reserve, even if it was the difference of 1 leg vs. 2. You'll actually make significantly more money as a Bro FO first year since line holders are flying much more than jet reserve FOs and make the same per hour.

If you live in the SE, though, why on earth are you set on SkyWest? Have you considered PSA/ASA? Are you a mil guy with TPIC? Gave you tried to call in favors for Big D? Considered corporate?

Originally Posted by bender

The Bro doesn't have yaw dampers? I've pretty much done a memory dump on the Saab, but I definately remember not doing the "Shuffle" and having to click the yaw dampers off before landing.

Originally Posted by waflyboy

After 12 months on the jet, can I bid into the Bro as an FO? (I don't think I'll have the senority for CA.) I entered the bid on the standing bid board for fun, and it listed it as a "downgrade." (That doesn't sound good!) Shouldn't it be a "transition," since it's not a seat change?

Originally Posted by DitchDog

I heard from a guy who just did the rj-fo/emb-cap upgrade and he said there was sombody with a 32### employee number upgrading in the emb...can anyone confirm that? If true that is a hella short upgrade time....I'm guessing with that number...7-8 months.

Originally Posted by JetJock16

Yes you will have to work unlike the RJ, but IT'S FUN! It's a slick, powerful, fast, conventional twin that looks great, sounds great and fly’s great. It's a very stable platform and it can do some amazing things once you learn how to properly fly it.

You’ll be fine.

Originally Posted by Timmay

I can agree with everything you've posted about the Brasilia except for the sound. How in the world can those little PW118A/B's pump out so much damn noise when they're as big around as my fist? It boggles my mind. I used to love how much sound they cranked out, especially just idling around on the ground...now I'm just tired of having to plug my ears every time one pulls into the gates in LAX.