I agree, but alpa national thinks it's too risky to open up that can of worms. Basically there's a good chance that we could end up worse off than before (ie no self-help allowed). The legislative process is such a crap-shoot that management (ATA) doesn't want to risk it either.

Personally I suspect management would come out ahead, not much public sympathy for us greedy, underworked, millionaire RJ drivers. And even if labor did get a favorable bill, it would just get vetoed.

Interestingly enough, his son is at American. Mainline. I would imagine McCain's election would prompt his retirement. Who knows...

no way, interesting........I do have much to learn from you haha ;)

I'm going to both save and print that one out. And if you want to call me out, here's the proof first: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...the_limelight/

I don't think it really matters who's in office. None of the politicians have the integrity to side with a legitimate labor dispute and allow airline pilots to strike when it means some trailer trash fat guy might not get to Cancun on time.

That said, all we can hope is it's not going to be John, I hate airline pilots, McCain giving airline pilots the finger from the White House.

Great topic. YOU, yes you, can start with the National Mediation Board at 202-692-5000 or Wage & Hour Division Department of labor at 513-684 2908 (www.dol.gov/esa/whd). Then again they may direct you to your very own union that agreed to the embarassing wages you earn.

Also, do you really think ALPA wants any of their pilot group to strike? Do you know how much it would cost them to pay you while you strike, they are not going to do that, they like to keep the status quo. I was speaking to an ALPA Capt while jumpseating and this was his opinion which seems very logical.

Unfortunately, we basically have our hands tied up with this RLA and since no president is going to touch this thing, remember the misconception by the average joe, that we pilots are like uncle scrooge and have a vault full of money that we swim in each afternoon. :D, there is very little that can be done, I always make it a point to let the passengers that I sit next to know how much I really make.

I think the first strategy to win this is to first have the media educate the public about what management has done to us pilots and the wages/hours we work under, then this would create momentum that ALPA can use and combined with a labor friendly president, perhaps something can come from it.

Yes, ALPA National would love for a pilot group to finally be able to strike.

The Major Contingency Fund (MCF) is already set up and funded for things of that nature...