"Perhaps the mods need to do a better job to clean up the maturity on this forum."

I'm all over this forum. I can only respond to TOS violations. I don't see immaturity really mentioned in the TOS. Feel free to report posts that violate TOS. If you'd like the admins to add an "immature" infraction, I'd be all for it. Send HSLD a PM.

"They talk a good game about "infractions" but same old people talking the same old junk"

As long as said "junk" doesn't violate TOS, the mods won't touch it. You can either post your opinion, not post, or find another site you like better. Many options for you....

They said the same things about the Houston operation when it started. It all got fixed and three years later Continental appears to be happy with the results. The same will happen in Sewark. Since some of the XJT flying was re-slotted to CHQ, can we assume Continental wasn't happy with the product cost? By the way, PCL pilots don't want to fly turboprops. Let's not kid ourselves. I can assume what they do want and deserve is a good contract and more money.

Product cost = paying pilots more to do a better job? XJT is a tight ship operationally, and the only reason we'd cost more is because of our crew payscales and work rules. If you think thats a bad thing, I sure do appreciate your efforts towards improving our profession. :confused:

When CAL cancels a CHQ flight, CHQ doesn't have to pay their crew because I understand they don't have cancellation pay. Not sure why weather should influence an employee's paycheck. XJT pilots are pay protected, and if that costs more, so be it. That's the way it should be.

Is Colgan pay protected for cancellations? Are Colgan pilots compensated appropriately for flying a heavier aircraft that produces more revenue for CAL? Are CHQ/RJET 70 seat pilots paid more than XJT pilots for flying larger aircraft?

These are the questions we all have to think about when we are undercutting each other. We're all pilots but you have to see that there's nothing good about folks wanting to fly larger and larger aircraft for less and less. That's my gripe with companies that undercut XJT. If it didn't effect my job security then I wouldn't care what Colgan dudes make.

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Even though the Saabs and other turboprops are great on gas and therefore as asset to have, Colgan has been struggling with the money issues well before the takeover. From what I understand is that the Q400 was the saving grace for a company with over 8 million in debt at the time of the takeover. If not for Pinnacle, Colgan would have folded by now. I no longer work there, but from what I here from some of my management friends, Buddy and his people have been rebuilding a very sunken ship. I am curious as to how Colgan pulls through with the fuel price increaes etc.. The way they are going, they will probably be a larger, more dominant and more proffitable company in the next few years.

yes we are, and this whole thing about it being the pilots fault for us flying more routes for CAL because we get paid less is BS. I really dont think in the big picture a couple of dollars per flight hour for the crew really makes a difference compared to the huge amount for fuel, aircraft, mx etc etc...

I think you are preaching to the choir. Who doesn't want to have excellent benefits and get paid well to do their job? However, Continental doesn't care about your benefits and how much you, the mechanics or gate agents are paid. They don't care if you get cancellation pay either. A lot of what they (bean counters) care about is how much it costs to get people from A to B. XJT has a great product and nobody could ever argue against that. But apparently CAL thinks it costs too much. Delta thinks the cost is fine, since XJT picked up some Delta flying. This is the beauty of a free market economy. I fly the Saab and I won't go fly the Q400 for that terrible pay. But Colgan is having no problems filling the seats with street captains and "no union" voters.