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Smalls 04-05-2008 07:05 PM

Think long and hard before you sign it..... correction, think long and hard before you go see your AME, and get some private legal advice. Right now it sounds like you don't know what you don't know, and that is very risky. If it has been less than 60 days since your mistake, you can still CYA, if not, you've got issues, good luck.[/quote]


Thanks for the concern there. All of my actions in relation to this offence have been under the advisement of my private legal council. And yes, my attorney deals specifically with pilots whom have alcohol related convictions. So the FAA reporting has been taken care of in a timely fashion, and has been submitted by my attorney on my behalf. I am aware of all the pitfalls that are in front of me surrounding my poor judgment that lead to my DWAI. But I'll take it as it comes, one day at a time.
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SabreDriver 04-05-2008 07:09 PM

Smalls,

Good on ya, good luck to you. I truly hope it works out and you get where you want to be.

Fly Safe

Sabre

N49194 04-05-2008 07:12 PM

Another issue that comes up with an offense such as this is getting into Canada and the restrictions that this places on an airline considering you for employment. Like mentioned above, you honesty and understanding of the mistake you made goes a long way in the eyes of a potential employer when looking to hire you. However the recent changes in Canadian law concerning misdemeanors and entrance to Canada often leave the hands of a potential employer tied. If this DWAI is viewed by Canada as a disqualifying offense for entry you will be very limited in the regional opportunities until you qualify for "Rehabilitated" consideration under the Canadian laws. This is a minimum of 5 yrs from the time the sentence was considered satisfied, not 5 yrs from date of conviction.

In my opinion you can get a job with a regional, but it may take some time as you mentioned this DWAI is pretty recent. My bet is that it does disqualify you from Canadian entrance and that would mean that you would have a very tough time getting on with any regional that flies to Canada.

I don't want to be discouraging and I could be wrong but you are likely in for a tough fight initially. As time goes by though this will become less of an issue so long as you don't let this happen again.

Best of luck

crewdawg52 04-05-2008 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 356442)
Hi, I know that there are many posts on this website that all discuss a DUI, but I could not find any that mention DWAI (driving while ability impaired). I recently made the terrible mistake of driving my car after drinking, and was charged with DWAI. Right now I am flying for a small company, but am interested in flying for a regional. Is a DWAI, treated the same as a DUI at the airlines, even though it is a far less offense than a DUI? I suppose my real question is, Do I have a chance at being hired at a 121 regional carrier with A DWAI? I have previous 121 experience and attended a 30 day inpatient alcohol rehabilitation program. Any constructive input would be very much appreciated. Thanks - Smalls


Sorry, but you're screwed due to your "mistake". You really think that you have a chance with that over your head when all the pilots that just got "let go" because the company they worked for just closed its doors....... good luck....

downinthegroove 04-05-2008 08:54 PM

Be smart and aggressive. Talk to a lawyer.

There is a guy who is not screwed due to his "mistake" of getting a DUI on base while in UPT no less. Fight like hell, take responsibility and know your options. There are a lot of good people out there that have made decisions others ridicule that other chalk up to experience.

Many are flying in the airlines and I know from experience many are flying with security clearances in the military. You should have seen on in-processing day at USAFA all the kids that stand up and are called back for questioned for smoking pot. They were all back and all (well most) graduated.

Make the best of it. Seek counsel, don't repeat your mistake, fight like hell and do the one thing that all respect. Take ownership of your actions.

The Dude Abides 04-06-2008 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg52 (Post 356600)
Sorry, but you're screwed due to your "mistake". You really think that you have a chance with that over your head when all the pilots that just got "let go" because the company they worked for just closed its doors....... good luck....

You're not screwed. I had to disclose in my interview about how I lost a previous job after peeing in the cup. This was before I was in aviation obviously, but you'll need to put some time between you and this incident to show it was isolated and you don't have a problem. Just be honest in any interviews, most employers recognize we are humans and subject to mistakes.

waflyboy 04-06-2008 07:48 AM

Smalls,
I'll echo the above sentiments:
Find a reputable lawyer (get a reference from somebody who's had sucess fighting a similar charge). If this charge is based on the officer's discretion, you might stand a chance at fighting it.

If your driving priveldge was suspended, you'll have to report it on your next medical. I'm not sure if a conviction of this offense is required to be reported, though. I think the medical form specifically states DUI/DWI.

Be honest at future interviews and take responsibility.

The last thing, is you'll need to find out if a conviction will result in preventing you from entering Canada. A DUI/DWI will, unless you have a waiver. This is probably one of the greatest considerations with reference to getting an airline job.

Fight that charge and keep your nose clean going toward. It's not a career-ender.


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