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Smalls 04-05-2008 04:07 PM

DWAI, And my chance of getting hired at the regionals...
 
Hi, I know that there are many posts on this website that all discuss a DUI, but I could not find any that mention DWAI (driving while ability impaired). I recently made the terrible mistake of driving my car after drinking, and was charged with DWAI. Right now I am flying for a small company, but am interested in flying for a regional. Is a DWAI, treated the same as a DUI at the airlines, even though it is a far less offense than a DUI? I suppose my real question is, Do I have a chance at being hired at a 121 regional carrier with A DWAI? I have previous 121 experience and attended a 30 day inpatient alcohol rehabilitation program. Any constructive input would be very much appreciated. Thanks - Smalls

mking84 04-05-2008 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 356442)
Hi, I know that there are many posts on this website that all discuss a DUI, but I could not find any that mention DWAI (driving while ability impaired). I recently made the terrible mistake of driving my car after drinking, and was charged with DWAI. Right now I am flying for a small company, but am interested in flying for a regional. Is a DWAI, treated the same as a DUI at the airlines, even though it is a far less offense than a DUI? I suppose my real question is, Do I have a chance at being hired at a 121 regional carrier with A DWAI? I have previous 121 experience and attended a 30 day inpatient alcohol rehabilitation program. Any constructive input would be very much appreciated. Thanks - Smalls

Everything on your record is fair game....but by no means will exclude you from jobs at the regionals. Every airline is different, so I can only speak for the one I work for (no its not one of the Mesa "like" carriers), but airlines want a couple things. Honesty and change. Be honest, humble, and have humility and you will be fine....the most important thing is that you learned from your mistake. Everybody makes them, nobody is a perfect pilot, myself included. It may hurt you at some companies but not all of them. Anybody who tells you that your career is over, or you should change professions is talking without any merit. Sent me a private msg. if you have any questions.

rickair7777 04-05-2008 04:19 PM

Generally, any citation for driving after drinking is equally bad. DUI, DWI, DWAI, DWI reduced to recklesss, whatever.

I understand that some are worse than others in the eyes of the law, but employers pretty much hold them all in the same light. You will not get better consideration because you didn't have quite as much to drink as some other guy.

With that said, there is plenty of info here about DUI's and airline employment...but keep in mind many of those posts were written before the hiring slump when employers may have been more forgiving.

waflyboy 04-05-2008 06:15 PM

How is DWAI different from DUI? It sounds like a longer way to say the same thing.

dojetdriver 04-05-2008 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by waflyboy (Post 356530)
How is DWAI different from DUI? It sounds like a longer way to say the same thing.

Driving while ability impaired vs. Driving under the influence. Some states used to have a cutoff, BAL above a certain amount but below another is "impaired", carries a lessor charge.

NJGov 04-05-2008 06:48 PM

clarification
 
DWAI, Driving While Ability Impaired, can be issued for several reasons. It is not exactly like a DUI/DWI.

DWAI is when the officer verifies that your alcohol level is below the legal limit, but still impairing you ability to operate a motor vehicle. It carriers a much less severe penalty than a DWI.

Furthermore, a DWAI is a difficult charge to "prove" in court because it is subjective to the officer's discretion. Yes the BAT showed you in a "hazardous" intoxication level, but still below the legal consumption limit.

Most of the time, DWAIs are used as a reduced penalty for first time DWI/DUI offenders with clean records.

To the OP: If you have even a decent lawyer you can get this cleared from your record without too much trouble. However, let it still be a lesson to you. That cop may have just saved your life and someone else's life that day for stopping you. Don't let it happen again.

Smalls 04-05-2008 06:52 PM

In Colorado the difference between a DUI and DWAI is BAC. A DUI is assessed for driving with a BAC over .100, where a DWAI is assed for a BAC between .08-.100.

SabreDriver 04-05-2008 06:54 PM

Your real problem might be getting your next medical :eek: You're gonna have to check yes in that block that says you have had a drug/alcohol conviction. If you had a DUI (or similar) and you check no, therby filing a falsified medical application, you could very well lose your medical for LIFE. :eek: OKC takes a very dim view if falsifying medical stuff, as they should.


From the form.....

Preparing for your FAA pilot physical requires a full understanding of the questions you will be required to answer. Your verbal and written responses given during the medical application are legally binding declarations and releases. Review this history section carefully to understand the affirmations you must make.

This section contains guidance for items on the Medical History and General Information page of FAA Form 8500-8, Application for Airman Medical Certificate or Airman Medical and Student Pilot Certificate.


Applicant History

Item 20. Applicant's National Driver Register and Certifying Declaration

In addition to making a declaration of the completeness and truthfulness of the applicant's responses on the medical application, the applicant's declaration authorizes the National Driver Register to release the applicant's adverse driving history information, if any, to the FAA. The FAA uses such information to verify information provided in the application.

The applicant should be instructed to sign Item 20 after reading the declaration. The signature should be in ink. If an applicant does not sign the declaration for any reason, the Examiner shall not issue a medical certificate but forward the incomplete application to the AMCD.

Form the Frequently Asked Questions

Where do I send my Notification Letter (MS Word) ?
Send the letter to:
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)
Security and Investigations Division (AMC-700)
P.O. Box 25810
Oklahoma City, OK 73125
or
Fax to (405) 954-4989

Do I have to report anything other than alcohol-related convictions?

Yes, under 14 CFR Part 61, you must report alcohol-related administrative actions, whether a conviction took place or not. Administrative actions and convictions are also reportable under Part 67, the airman application for a medical certificate.



Think long and hard before you sign it..... correction, think long and hard before you go see your AME, and get some private legal advice. Right now it sounds like you don't know what you don't know, and that is very risky. If it has been less than 60 days since your mistake, you can still CYA, if not, you've got issues, good luck.

Smalls 04-05-2008 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by NJGov (Post 356552)
DWAI, Driving While Ability Impaired, can be issued for several reasons. It is not exactly like a DUI/DWI.

DWAI is when the officer verifies that your alcohol level is below the legal limit, but still impairing you ability to operate a motor vehicle. It carriers a much less severe penalty than a DWI.

Furthermore, a DWAI is a difficult charge to "prove" in court because it is subjective to the officer's discretion. Yes the BAT showed you in a "hazardous" intoxication level, but still below the legal consumption limit.

Most of the time, DWAIs are used as a reduced penalty for first time DWI/DUI offenders with clean records.

To the OP: If you have even a decent lawyer you can get this cleared from your record without too much trouble. However, let it still be a lesson to you. That cop may have just saved your life and someone else's life that day for stopping you. Don't let it happen again.



Thank you all for your replies. When all is said and done, the best I can do is apply, and the worst that can happen is say no. It just is what it is. As for drinking and driving, it is extremely foolish, and a mistake that I will never repeat in my life. I have always been a proponent for harsher punishment for drunken driving, and still am even in light of my situation. Career aside, I would hate to have to apologize to another’s family for killing someone behind the wheel after drinking.
Again, thanks for the input - Smalls

SabreDriver 04-05-2008 06:58 PM

Smalls,

Here's the reference http://flightphysical.com/pilot/FAQ-dui.htm


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