Colgan Raises Capt pay
 

..on the beech. Starting June 1st beech capts will be paid the same as saab captains, this is due to the high tranistion rate to the Q w/o qualified upgrade candidates, they need to attract street hires. So hopefully we'll get a raise on the saab and Q maybe we'll see

How much is?

4 peanuts, a bag of okra, and a free monthly colganoscopy

My best guess, seeing as airlinepilotcentral.com is down at the moment

Unbelievable...::shocked:: that they found they had to raise pay to attract qualified applicants ;)

Real winners they are...

Yeah but the hardworking pilots who have been with the company for years on the saab haven't had a raise in years. So street captains get more money, then I bet at the end of the year when the 1900s go away they will go straight to the Q. It'll be the cheaper way, screwing the saab guys.

Colgan also changed alcohol policy to none within 12 hours of duty. that's total crap. Won't be able to go to the bar during groundschool anymore. All because of a couple of idiots who showed up hung over.

And the daily crewtrac reminder that you can be suspended/terminated if you don't do what that daily message says.

Moral seems to be at an all time low here from what i've been noticing lately.

the 12 hour alcohol thing is funny. apparently can't perform safely with 1 beer 11 hours and 59 minutes before your showtime............ but reduced rest is cool;)

Beech captains will be making far more than Saab captains. They credit much more than the Saab guys do. I think it's well deserved.

Its too bad Colgan does not have a union.


If they did, I think this would be a pretty reasonable request from the union.

Can't have alcohol within 12 hours of flying? I guess we need a minimum of 12 hours and 30 minutes of rest on an overnight. Unless you are willing to change the alcohol rule.

Step in the right direction :)

The 12 hour rule is a pinnacle thing. I cant remember the last time I had a cocktail on an overnight.

Republic is 12 hours as well! :(

Might be able to change it if everyone, when called on a day off to pick up some extra time, said, "I'd love to, but unfortunately I had a drink nine hours ago." And when some scheduler says nine is fine, reply, "Have Mickey call me and give me written authorization."

Just shows that their argument that the equipment can't support higher pilot pay is bogus

Welcome to our little web called Pinnacle...muwahaha...

The 12 hour rule is great when the try and activate your 10am reserve by changing it to a 8:00am show. "Sorry, Irene but I had a beer at 10pm so I am not allowed to show till 10am."

Eagle has 12 hours bottle-to-throttle on the Jets and the Saab, but its only 8 hours on the ATR... Wooohoooooo. i think ill stay on the ATR...

i heard from and friend of mine that they canceled his june 11 saab class because we dont have much attrition now

It is because there is nowhere to go. I have talked to I cant even tell you how many captains that cant wait to leave but they have been having their interviews cancelled or there is just no one hiring. All of the senior captains with 3000+ TPIC are kicking themselves now because they should have left when the going was good a year or so ago.

thats funny, at Colgan they are considered "senior", whats senior at Colgan 4 years?

Mostly 8 and 7 years for the ones I am talking about.

Jesus, why would anyone stay at COLGAN for that long???????????????

Because in the past, half of these guys had the chief pilots, director of ops and everyone else who was anyone at Colgan on speed dial. If they wanted days off, favors or anything you can imagine done they just called their "buddies" and it was taken care of. That has changed to a point where it is now nearly non existent so they are seeing their QOL drop and are no longer feeling the love. From what I have heard from the more senior group the QOL was through the roof for the guys who lived in base and had all of their little "ins" with the company. I have only been here since September but overall I would say morale is terribly low on the CAL side on the east coast. I have had better days here but a bad day at a regional beats a great day overseas.

The morale is low on the CAL side, because its CAL. I like the Pilots, but the Gate Agents and the F/A's and the rampers are the most UNPROFESSIONAL RUDE, OBNOXIOUS SOB's out there in the airline world. Even my fellow CHQ buddies who are doing the CAL flying noticed this.........

Get used to it, Continental Airlines Employees for the most part are rude, just look at how Larry treates EXPRESS, the employees think they can treat us like garbage because CAL management does, if you arent flying a CAL Boeing, your worthless in the eyes of most CAL employees.

Your kidding right? CAL employees overall I think are much better/motivated and professional then the other legacies. You'll always have your 10% anywhere but I haven't had near the number of issues that I have had with UAL/USAIR/NWA. Only time I've seem issues is when the pilot treats the ramp agents/gate agents like that are below them. At which point I think the response is warranted.

Hmmm, QOL of life not so good. These same senior guys who cry now are the same ones who did not vote for ALPA last year. I hope their QOL is poor right now so they can see what it is like for everyone else who is not on page 1 of the senority list. Maybe this time they will get involved and vote in a union.