Looking to re-enter regional airlines
02-16-2006 | 05:32 AM
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I know you're not advocating those things directly, but you are advocating making a move through which they become VERY likely circumstances...I'd rather be 70 or 80 and not have to think "I wish I had been around my family more."
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02-16-2006 | 05:37 AM
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Looking to re-enter...
Uncle Bose:
I see your point...and duly noted. I do know that any decision that is made when it comes down to changing careers, has its good points and bad ones. The trick, if you will, is to minmize the negative impact that that decision has on relationships, finances, and emotions, etc.
I see your point...and duly noted. I do know that any decision that is made when it comes down to changing careers, has its good points and bad ones. The trick, if you will, is to minmize the negative impact that that decision has on relationships, finances, and emotions, etc.
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02-16-2006 | 06:45 AM
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Minimize?
Originally Posted by atpwannabe
Uncle Bose:
I see your point...and duly noted. I do know that any decision that is made when it comes down to changing careers, has its good points and bad ones. The trick, if you will, is to minmize the negative impact that that decision has on relationships, finances, and emotions, etc.
I see your point...and duly noted. I do know that any decision that is made when it comes down to changing careers, has its good points and bad ones. The trick, if you will, is to minmize the negative impact that that decision has on relationships, finances, and emotions, etc.
The only way to minimize the losses in this case is to not do it at all. Life has its costs. Once you choose to become a family man you can't go back again without severe consequences. Life as a new hire regional airline pilot is brutal. It is extremely unfair to put a family through that. The odds are that he wouldn't have a family very long if he is capable of putting them last like this. Someone mentioned that the family needs to be supportive, what about being a respectful father? Just because a wife feigns understanding doesnt mean that she will stick with it when she has to endure poverty and loneliness because her selfish husband cant buck up and care for his family. Perhaps when his kids are older he can think about returning as a CFI, but for now his responsibilities demand that he forget about it.
SkyHigh
02-16-2006 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Starting over as a new FO at the regionals is unfair to a family who is use to eating and having a father around. There are many impulses that we all have throughout our lives. Most we don't act on. As a father we enter an agreement that we will work in the best interest if our families. Often that means squashing ridiculous selfish wants for the benifit of the family.
As you mentioned being on furlough or quiting due to a forced transfer is diffrent than voluntarily leaving a flying job to pursue a career outside of aviation. It is a career death sentence in the minds of HR people. If he left the airlines once before the odds are strong that he will do it again. As we all know things haven't gotten any easier at the regionals. A desperate regional might take him on but a major wouldn't touch him. To quit a flying job without having another better one in line is right up there with having a few DUI's, it is the end of the line.
SKyHigh
As you mentioned being on furlough or quiting due to a forced transfer is diffrent than voluntarily leaving a flying job to pursue a career outside of aviation. It is a career death sentence in the minds of HR people. If he left the airlines once before the odds are strong that he will do it again. As we all know things haven't gotten any easier at the regionals. A desperate regional might take him on but a major wouldn't touch him. To quit a flying job without having another better one in line is right up there with having a few DUI's, it is the end of the line.
SKyHigh
The HR people aren't too worried about you being a w*ss for leaving before; they're thinking about how they just got an experienced FO for a new hire price!
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02-16-2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
The only way to minimize the losses in this case is to not do it at all. Life has its costs. Once you choose to become a family man you can't go back again without severe consequences. Life as a new hire regional airline pilot is brutal. It is extremely unfair to put a family through that. The odds are that he wouldn't have a family very long if he is capable of putting them last like this. Someone mentioned that the family needs to be supportive, what about being a respectful father? Just because a wife feigns understanding doesnt mean that she will stick with it when she has to endure poverty and loneliness because her selfish husband cant buck up and care for his family. Perhaps when his kids are older he can think about returning as a CFI, but for now his responsibilities demand that he forget about it.
SkyHigh
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You are full of positive attitude aren't you? Does everything you post have to be negative? Makes me wonder what happened in YOUR career, damn.
02-16-2006 | 11:37 AM
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You really cannot take anything Skyhigh says to serious. Take a look at his other posts or on flightinfo. He has been out of the industry so long that he really has no incite. He chose to leave and do a desk job. I just don't understand why he spends all his time at work creeping around aviation web boards.... ISSUES???
02-16-2006 | 03:06 PM
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For the Record
Just to get the record strait. My last real employer went under a few years ago. I was working as a 757 FO for National Airlines. At the time I knew that it would be near impossible to find a good enough job to support my growing family. Instead of dragging them across the country again to another strange town to work a minimum wage job I decided to call it quits for a spell and head home. I made that sacrifice for my wife and children. Not my choice to loose my job. Since then I have been able to see things from a new perspective now that the rose colored glasses are gone. You guys will have a different attitude as well after you have been kicked around the industry for a while.
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