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Originally Posted by maxjet
(Post 379035)
I have been in this biz for a while. I have seen and heard the above comment more than a few times from new guys. When you train at an airline, instrument proficiency has very little to do with your passing or failing the course.
Having worked in the training department for a 121 carrier for over 9 years I would respectfully disagree. At least with new hire. All of the things you talked about needing to learn during training are true. However those that struggle the most with learnig those things in the sim are those that have poor instrument skills. If you are using 98% of your mental capacity for basic instrument flying issues, there is nearly nothing left over to learn the airplane/company sop/ and the hundreds of other little things you need to observe. If you come in very proficient, your vision widens dramatically and you will "see" much more in the sim, and have time to worry about checklist items, profiles etc. |
Thanks for the thread. This is true. You have to many "Just out of college" new hires that want to chill and relax at moms until class starts. IMHO you guys are almost worthless as FOs when you only have 250 hours anyway. 2 months off and you will revert back to a student pilot. HAHA Ive seen it.
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Gee, thanks Dad.
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Originally Posted by Airwaves
(Post 378809)
Sorry we aren't all Skygods like you.
My point was plain and simple. They can do what ever they want. if they want to fly, so be it. if they want to relax at home, thats fine too. everybody is different, so let them decide. Im going to go out on a limb and say that most of the pilots sitting in the pool right now are relatively experienced - they are probably not your 250 hour wonders, they probably have quite a bit of multi/inst time and arent going to forget how to fly overnight. And if they are 250 hour wonders, then they never had that much experience in the first place to try to keep current so it wont have that much of an effect. |
Originally Posted by ghilis101
(Post 379158)
Lets see. You started a thread lecturing people you dont even know, about a scenario youre not even in, giving advice that doesnt apply to you right now. and youre calling me a Skygod? youre a total idiot, and i mean that with all due respect.
My point was plain and simple. They can do what ever they want. if they want to fly, so be it. if they want to relax at home, thats fine too. everybody is different, so let them decide. Im going to go out on a limb and say that most of the pilots sitting in the pool right now are relatively experienced - they are probably not your 250 hour wonders, they probably have quite a bit of multi/inst time and arent going to forget how to fly overnight. And if they are 250 hour wonders, then they never had that much experience in the first place to try to keep current so it wont have that much of an effect. word man, well said. |
Originally Posted by ghilis101
(Post 379158)
Lets see. You started a thread lecturing people you dont even know, about a scenario youre not even in, giving advice that doesnt apply to you right now. and youre calling me a Skygod? youre a total idiot, and i mean that with all due respect.
My point was plain and simple. They can do what ever they want. if they want to fly, so be it. if they want to relax at home, thats fine too. everybody is different, so let them decide. Im going to go out on a limb and say that most of the pilots sitting in the pool right now are relatively experienced - they are probably not your 250 hour wonders, they probably have quite a bit of multi/inst time and arent going to forget how to fly overnight. And if they are 250 hour wonders, then they never had that much experience in the first place to try to keep current so it wont have that much of an effect. |
As long as you're not a complete space-cadet, maybe...Heck, even a monkey can mate the little airplane with the magenta FD...
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Originally Posted by xjcaptain
(Post 379051)
Having worked in the training department for a 121 carrier for over 9 years I would respectfully disagree. At least with new hire. All of the things you talked about needing to learn during training are true. However those that struggle the most with learnig those things in the sim are those that have poor instrument skills. .
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