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fatmike69 05-11-2008 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlinker (Post 383601)
Then let SkyWest management post their own letter to their own pilot group if they want to know what's going on.

Already done. I had seen this letter days ago, as it appeared on our public forum.

duvie 05-11-2008 02:17 PM

That is a very well written, and objective letter. I am glad that XJT seems to have a great team leading them through this. Good luck fellas

rjboy 05-11-2008 02:40 PM

I have many friends at XJT and do not want us to take any of their flying. That being said I am disappointed by the attitudes expressed by some on this forum regarding "their" "LAX" flying. It seems they are ignoring the fact that a large chunk of this flying is being done out of SLC on former SKW routes on a pro-rate contract. It seems like they have no problem undercutting others but cry foul when they are treated the same way. I hope we can stand together as pilots so that both groups can benefit in the future.

rickair7777 05-11-2008 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by rjboy (Post 383836)
I have many friends at XJT and do not want us to take any of their flying. That being said I am disappointed by the attitudes expressed by some on this forum regarding "their" "LAX" flying. It seems they are ignoring the fact that a large chunk of this flying is being done out of SLC on former SKW routes on a pro-rate contract. It seems like they have no problem undercutting others but cry foul when they are treated the same way. I hope we can stand together as pilots so that both groups can benefit in the future.

True statement. XJT does a lot of flying out of SLC that really DID "belong" to SKW...since the very beginning of the regional industry.

Also the LAX DAL flying was temporary...everybody knew that when it started. It was a convenient placeholder until SKW could get the UAL non-compete rule waived at LAX.

I certainly don't want any CAL flying at the expense of XJT, but SLC??? That's not "XJT's Flying"....get real folks. I'll be happy to see that back where it belongs, thanks.

Also anyone who took a job at XJT after CAL announced the first reduction should not be complaining. Did you REALLY think things were looking peachy in the long-term? Every heard of Air Indy? Hellooo, McFly!

tpersuit 05-11-2008 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by rjboy (Post 383836)
That being said I am disappointed by the attitudes expressed by some on this forum regarding "their" "LAX" flying. It seems they are ignoring the fact that a large chunk of this flying is being done out of SLC on former SKW routes on a pro-rate contract.

Wow!

Maybe you should thank RAH first if you are going to take that route. Guess who wouldn't be in "your" neck of the woods if CAL didn't take away "our" flying for them.

Get off your high horse

tpersuit 05-11-2008 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 383861)

Also the LAX DAL flying was temporary...everybody knew that when it started. It was a convenient placeholder until SKW could get the UAL non-compete rule waived at LAX.

I certainly don't want any CAL flying at the expense of XJT, but SLC??? That's not "XJT's Flying"....get real folks. I'll be happy to see that back where it belongs, thanks.

And Wow again!

The Delta flying in LAX is not temporary! They signed a 2-year agreement to test us out. Again, maybe you should look at why we had to fill in at LAX in the first place. Do you think we just went out and bought 69 new aircraft?

I hope you guys don't represent the majority of the pilots at Skywest.

rickair7777 05-11-2008 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 383871)
And Wow again!

The Delta flying in LAX is not temporary! They signed a 2-year agreement to test us out. Again, maybe you should look at why we had to fill in at LAX in the first place. Do you think we just went out and bought 69 new aircraft?

I hope you guys don't represent the majority of the pilots at Skywest.

They were "testing" you? Did you pass?

I don't feel too strongly about the LAX flying, but I don't feel that XJT has any more entitlement than ASA or SKW. Nobody I know at SKW or XJT ever thought that was permament...did you? Really? What have you been smoking? You know we're supposed to stay away from that stuff in 121...

How long have you worked at XJT? Less than two years?

duvie 05-11-2008 04:32 PM

None of this flying belongs to anybody! It is mainline flying that they delegate as they see fit. Get real my fellow pilots. Anybody see parallels between Air Wisconsin and XJT right about now? A great airline that "lost" their flying and bases to SKW because their management couldn't understand that we are independent contractor's for major airlines. We aren't friends, enemies, buddies, chums, cronies or anything like that. We are business partners for the duration of our contracts. Period.

duvie 05-11-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 383882)
They were "testing" you? Did you pass?

I don't feel too strongly about the LAX flying, but I don't feel that XJT has any more entitlement than ASA or SKW. Nobody I know at SKW or XJT ever thought that was permament...did you? Really? What have you been smoking? You know we're supposed to stay away from that stuff in 121...

How long have you worked at XJT? Less than two years?

Rick, don't go down the same road TonyWilliams did. Leave the insults out of this.

Superpilot92 05-11-2008 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 383861)
True statement. XJT does a lot of flying out of SLC that really DID "belong" to SKW...since the very beginning of the regional industry.

Also the LAX DAL flying was temporary...everybody knew that when it started. It was a convenient placeholder until SKW could get the UAL non-compete rule waived at LAX.

I certainly don't want any CAL flying at the expense of XJT, but SLC??? That's not "XJT's Flying"....get real folks. I'll be happy to see that back where it belongs, thanks.

Also anyone who took a job at XJT after CAL announced the first reduction should not be complaining. Did you REALLY think things were looking peachy in the long-term? Every heard of Air Indy? Hellooo, McFly!


Hello McFly ;), That flying "Belongs" to DAL and DAL gave that flying to XJT. XJT did not "take" XJT flying. However with Skywest INC's "offer" they are taking the flying from XJT.


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