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rickair7777 05-11-2008 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 383891)
Hello McFly ;), That flying "Belongs" to DAL and DAL gave that flying to XJT. XJT did not "take" XJT flying. However with Skywest INC's "offer" they are taking the flying from XJT.

Maybe you don't fully understand grammatical constructs? Please notice the parantheses around the word "belongs"...do you understand what those symbols mean in this context?

Let me get this straight...

It's ok for XJT to do DAL flying in SLC, but it's NOT ok for SKW to DAL flying in LAX? Why didn't i hear all this protesting when the SLC stuff hapened?

Superpilot92 05-11-2008 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 383894)
Maybe you don't fully understand grammatical constructs? Please notice the parantheses around the word "belongs"...do you understand what those symbols mean in this context?

Let me get this straight...

It's ok for XJT to do DAL flying in SLC, but it's NOT ok for SKW to DAL flying in LAX? Why didn't i hear all this protesting when the SLC stuff hapened?

Thats not what i meant, I meant Skywest INC is taking flying that XJT, under Contract with DAL to provide feed out of LAX and SLC, will take that flying and transfer that flying to Skywest. All while furloughing in theory, Skywest INC pilots(xjt) while another skywest inc subsidiary is hiring because they are short staffed. That is totally different and you are attempting compare apples to green beans. The flying that XJT is getting for DAL

JoeyMeatballs 05-11-2008 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 383900)
Thats not what i meant, I meant Skywest INC is taking flying that XJT, under Contract with DAL to provide feed out of LAX and SLC, will take that flying and transfer that flying to Skywest. All while furloughing in theory, Skywest INC pilots(xjt) while another skywest inc subsidiary is hiring because they are short staffed. That is totally different and you are attempting compare apples to green beans. The flying that XJT is getting for DAL

exactly. Sounds pretty lame if you ask me

poor pilot 05-11-2008 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by ladder14 (Post 383643)
Once again more whining from some pilots, what a surprise

You got some nerve when your fellow pilots are about to get the shaft
with no KY you call that whining, how interesting. I for one hate to see any pilot group get a raw deal with the exception of mesa and thats the only exception.

duvie 05-11-2008 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 383900)
Thats not what i meant, I meant Skywest INC is taking flying that XJT, under Contract with DAL to provide feed out of LAX and SLC, will take that flying and transfer that flying to Skywest. All while furloughing in theory, Skywest INC pilots(xjt) while another skywest inc subsidiary is hiring because they are short staffed. That is totally different and you are attempting compare apples to green beans. The flying that XJT is getting for DAL

I don't understand how SKW can alter the contract unless Delta was agreeable. I was also under the impression that DAL felt SkyWest (not the INC) already had as much flying as they were gonna get.

newarkblows 05-11-2008 05:34 PM

no one knows what delta thinks anymore. they change their regional feed goals on a whim it seems. xjt delta contract is up in the spring of 2010.

rickair7777 05-11-2008 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 383900)
Thats not what i meant, I meant Skywest INC is taking flying that XJT, under Contract with DAL to provide feed out of LAX and SLC, will take that flying and transfer that flying to Skywest. All while furloughing in theory, Skywest INC pilots(xjt) while another skywest inc subsidiary is hiring because they are short staffed. That is totally different and you are attempting compare apples to green beans. The flying that XJT is getting for DAL

I agree that the whole deal does not appear to be up the highest ethical standards on the part of management, it is mildly annoying that they are threatening jobs as a negotiating tactic, and would be VERY disturbing if they actually followed through and put a bunch of pilots on the street just in order to shuffle flying around. I am a realist and quite pragmatic, but I hold out hope that jerry and co. would not go that far...I guess we're going to find out though.

The branded flying might be a different story...if it is not financially sound, then it might have to go away, regardless of who's running the show. I don't personnally have an opinion...my buddies there say it's losing money (who isn't these days), while folks on FI say they are making billions every week.

My irritation tonight stems from the attitude of some XJT folks towards the SKW pilot group...which really doesn't have anything to do with this. Especially junior XJT guys (post branded) who blithely took jobs at a company with known, significant risk factors. It's ok to make an informed decision and accept specific risk in exchange for possible returns...but some people apparently ignored the risk, got a rude awakening, and are now looking to vent. I don't like being the subject of unwarranted venting.

Bascuela 05-11-2008 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 383965)
My irritation tonight stems from the attitude of some XJT folks towards the SKW pilot group...which really doesn't have anything to do with this. Especially junior XJT guys (post branded) who blithely took jobs at a company with known, significant risk factors. It's ok to make an informed decision and accept specific risk in exchange for possible returns...but some people apparently ignored the risk, got a rude awakening, and are now looking to vent. I don't like being the subject of unwarranted venting.

Well said.

Bloodhound 05-11-2008 06:53 PM

Getting upset about this whole deal is warranted but getting upset at the SKW pilot group is not. Rickair can be my wingman any day. :p

tpersuit 05-11-2008 07:20 PM

Ric, our problem isn't with SKW pilots, its with you saying our flying for Delta is somehow Skywest's. What the hell are you talking about?


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