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saab2000 06-03-2008 07:34 PM

Don't buy time. Get paid for time. One job leads to the next. Simple as that. Take the first (safe*) job that will pay you to get that multi time. Be it instructing or charter or whatever. The best pilots I fly with are those who have been there and done that.

* by safe I mean don't compromise yours or anyone else's safety for a job. There are plenty of dangerous jobs out there. And safe one's too. Take the high road and the safe jobs.

bne744 06-03-2008 07:44 PM

Agreed with the posts on here, get that MEI, there are a number of people I know around the regional world that do not even have a CFI...Get paid to build time and not pay for it, with fuel being so high I can't imagine you'll be able to find a very good rate on a twin anyways....

Blkflyer 06-03-2008 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by bne744 (Post 396426)
Agreed with the posts on here, get that MEI, there are a number of people I know around the regional world that do not even have a CFI...Get paid to build time and not pay for it, with fuel being so high I can't imagine you'll be able to find a very good rate on a twin anyways....

What will happen to all these people if they are still FOs if their company puts them out on the streets.. Oh Geezz they will just go back to Mom and Dad.. I swear I learned so much from Instructing it should be a rite of passage to a regional job and such one should have at least 1000 duel given with at least 40% being Instrument instruction in a Twin..

Ok Rant over

rickB 06-03-2008 08:36 PM

go get mei at atp and work for them... i havent touched a single in months its glorious

ImperialxRat 06-03-2008 09:04 PM

Your goal of 25 hours at 180/hr is $4500. That's more than enough for your MEI.

Even if you split the time (which is not that easy to do legally), your looking at $2250. I have no clue how much the ATP program costs, but getting your MEI would be invaluable. There are so many flight schools desperate for instructors. If you look on climbto350.com, you can find flight schools hiring all over the US, and paying well (reasonably) too. $40k/yr to instruct.

Anyway, good luck with whatever ya choose to do! Getting a regional job in the near future will be difficult. And if you choose the instructing route, you will be well qualified for when the hiring picks up again.

PCLCREW 06-04-2008 04:49 AM

a friend of mine instructed at ALLATPS a few years ago and he got like 700hrs of multi time out of that. If your from PA I think they have a location in Trenton, NJ and one in Manassas, VA.
Get the MEI and get paid.

seattlepilot 06-04-2008 05:13 AM

180/hr looks pretty low in this day where AVGAS is $6.00/gal. Make sure you are flying something safe.. and yes, get your MEI.. United just announced that they are getting rid of 737s in their fleet.. So, who are you with 100 ME piston vs. people that have thousands of jet time? .. This is not 2006

cfii2007 06-04-2008 05:20 AM

I agree.....the MEI should not cost that much, maybe $2500 or so, assuming you have the 15 PIC hours.

jesduke1102 06-04-2008 07:08 AM

thank you every one. I understand every ones point and I have looked at it in detail. The issue is I dont have the 15 PIC for MEI and I am in a decent CFII job (500 dual given 750 tt, not the 250 hour CFI wonder), I know I missed the window I just am looking for some one to split that time with so I might get my MEI. If there is any one interested PM me please. thank you

rickair7777 06-04-2008 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 396412)
Don't buy time. Get paid for time. One job leads to the next. Simple as that. Take the first (safe*) job that will pay you to get that multi time. Be it instructing or charter or whatever. The best pilots I fly with are those who have been there and done that.

* by safe I mean don't compromise yours or anyone else's safety for a job. There are plenty of dangerous jobs out there. And safe one's too. Take the high road and the safe jobs.

I'm a big proponent of earning, not buying, flight time.

But for many folks, buying the first 25-100 ME hours might make sense. Insurance is the big problem, and it's getting worse.

It is very hard to find a regular job flying a twin without 100 ME. Most clubs, FBOs, and small schools have the same insurance problem, and not everyone can pack up and move to FL to work at a puppy-mill.

You might be able to beg, borrow, and steal twin time in GA-land but this can take a while, and insurance is still an issue. I have known 2500 hour CFI's with 12 hours ME...that doesn't make sense unless you want to be a career ASEL CFI.


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