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Blkflyer 06-17-2008 10:50 PM

What Lack of Scope will Do
 
Northwest Chief Executive Doug Steenland said Northwest is aiming to match its capacity to customer demand as airfares increase.

"We don't anticipate doing anything in addition, but if fuel continues to be challenging we clearly have the wherewithal to take additional action," he told analysts at a conference on Tuesday.

Still, Steenland acknowledged that even the cuts announced Tuesday would not get Northwest to its profit goals. When one analyst asked why Northwest didn't cut enough to meet its profit goal, Steenland said cutting more flights would run the risk that another carrier would simply move in and take that business.

"You have to do it always with an eye on the competitive ball," he said.

Northwest Airlines Corp. said it expects to reduce mainline flying by as much as 9.5 percent compared with a year ago. Domestic flying, including regional carriers, is now slated to go down by 7 percent to 8 percent. The cuts are expected to take effect in the fourth quarter, which begins in October.

But it said regional flying would rise by as much as 55 percent as it adds new 76-seat jets. Chief Financial Officer Dave Davis said the smaller jets cost about 30 percent less to operate because of lower labor and fuel expenses, even after making the debt payments

Blkflyer 06-17-2008 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 406405)
Northwest Chief Executive Doug Steenland said Northwest is aiming to match its capacity to customer demand as airfares increase.

"We don't anticipate doing anything in addition, but if fuel continues to be challenging we clearly have the wherewithal to take additional action," he told analysts at a conference on Tuesday.

Still, Steenland acknowledged that even the cuts announced Tuesday would not get Northwest to its profit goals. When one analyst asked why Northwest didn't cut enough to meet its profit goal, Steenland said cutting more flights would run the risk that another carrier would simply move in and take that business.

"You have to do it always with an eye on the competitive ball," he said.

Northwest Airlines Corp. said it expects to reduce mainline flying by as much as 9.5 percent compared with a year ago. Domestic flying, including regional carriers, is now slated to go down by 7 percent to 8 percent. The cuts are expected to take effect in the fourth quarter, which begins in October.

But it said regional flying would rise by as much as 55 percent as it adds new 76-seat jets. Chief Financial Officer Dave Davis said the smaller jets cost about 30 percent less to operate because of lower labor and fuel expenses, even after making the debt payments

Pretty Soon our Brazilian and Canadian Friends are going to make 150 seat airplanes and call them Regional Jets.. This SUCKS

ExperimentalAB 06-17-2008 11:14 PM

Yep we'll be RJ-drivers for the rest of our careers :mad:

HercDriver130 06-18-2008 03:49 AM

some will some wont, Mainline gets bigger, Regional aircraft get bigger.........its what has been happening in this industry for 20 years........ I may not like it but its what has been happening.

the companies and pilot groups that adapt the best will survive, those that dont and pine away for the way things USE to be..... might just be part of History.

jumperdumper 06-18-2008 04:05 AM

Adapt, improvise and overcome!

N2rotation 06-18-2008 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 406410)
Yep we'll be RJ-drivers for the rest of our careers :mad:

I know, just imagine if we were all on the same page; like if Skywest pilots voted ALPA! Nothing like unity to stand against what we believe in. SAPA isn't going to save us thats for sure.

par8head 06-18-2008 07:11 AM

hahahaaha hahahaha unity in ALPA....all I have seen good about ALPA is the sticking up for individual pilots at individual airlines....we are all battling against each other trying to survive and grow our own airlines...It is MEC vs MEC when ALPA shows true unity across the spectrum of pilots and airlines then maybe places like skywest will hop on board....

sorry I am having a bad day rant over

Superpilot92 06-18-2008 08:30 AM

That "growth" at the NWA regionals is not additional growth. Nothing has changed at these companies, they have not ordered anymore planes. They are still getting the deliveries that were originally planned thus the "increase". Scope still applies.

JungleBus 06-18-2008 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 406556)
That "growth" at the NWA regionals is not additional growth. Nothing has changed at these companies, they have not ordered anymore planes. They are still getting the deliveries that were originally planned thus the "increase". Scope still applies.

...such as it is. It's not anything like pre-BK scope, that's for damn sure.

JungleBus 06-18-2008 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by par8head (Post 406525)
hahahaaha hahahaha unity in ALPA....all I have seen good about ALPA is the sticking up for individual pilots at individual airlines....we are all battling against each other trying to survive and grow our own airlines...It is MEC vs MEC when ALPA shows true unity across the spectrum of pilots and airlines then maybe places like skywest will hop on board....

sorry I am having a bad day rant over

I hate to say it but you hit the nail on the head. As long as individual MECs have the autonomy they have and must undercut each other to secure their flying, ALPA (or any union) is of rather limited use. ALPA's very structure is hurting us...we need more central control with the ability to set payrates across the board.


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