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de727ups 07-05-2008 11:07 AM

"It's great he's your hero, but I'd think twice about him being your pilot."

Why, cause he works at Mesa?

I have friends who left Mesa for UPS, America West, and Delta. Know another that interviewed at Alaska last year.

eaglefly 07-05-2008 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by pokey9554 (Post 418997)
This is why nothing gets done to improve the industry. The air is thin where many of you breathe.

You accept a job working for this guy and then lament that no one ELSE is doing anything to improve the industry ?

You lost me on that one.

Here's my first suggestion at improving the industry :

BAN J.O. and do NOT reward him or companies like his that attempt to get rich of their slave labor.

Here's my second :

Educate pilots NOT to work for bottom-of-the-barrel operations like this, for if they do, inform them they are dragging down the industry and may end up with an unhappy outcome career-wise.

Ski Patrol 07-05-2008 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by BURflyer (Post 418946)
There's probably a lot of good guys in prison also. Mesa is a very small "West coast" airline, the only time you'll see California is if you're a senior FO on minimum days off reserve or a really senior lifer Captain.

Denver was a very large CRJ and D8 base when I started, yes I consider DEN a west coast domicile. As for the latter part of your quote I agree Mesa has morphed into an east coast airline. As always hindsight is.. well you know.

Attack the company all day long I won't say a word. However, your comment about leftovers demonstrates a level of ignorance/lack of education and maturity in the industry. Think about it chief 700 pilots left in 07 that's one year. Where did they all go? Think about how many LAMA's there are in the entire industry. This is hopefully the last time I waste words trying to "edumacate" people such as yourself.

If people want to fix the industry they need to look further than just mesa. Mesa may come and go then what???? Transtates/Pinnacle good contracts come and go along with good and bad CEO's. The only way to increase your asking price in wages is to decrease the ample supply of applicants at all airlines. An APC member once told me to read flying the line I suggest you do the same.

muushin 07-05-2008 12:34 PM

Well said, eaglefly,
mesa is most definitely the bottom of the barrel

paxhauler85 07-05-2008 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by muushin (Post 419048)
Well said, eaglefly,
mesa is most definitely the bottom of the barrel

You never answered my question about the definition of a legitimate pilot.

You also failed to tell me where you work, and why you are a legitimate pilot.

paxhauler85 07-05-2008 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 418896)
"Shot down" BY 5 (count 'em FIVE) regionals in the pilot market of the last 5 years ?

That tells me everything I need to know about you, pilot wise.

Funny you say that as a lifer at AE.

Don't even try to convince me you haven't applied or interviewed anywhere else. Your attitude explains why you didn't get the job(s).

Keep in mind, if you applied and never got called, that still counts as a failed attempt at a job.

The only difference between you and this guy, is the ONE place that "bit" on you, has turned out (so far) better than Mesa.

muushin 07-05-2008 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 419096)
You never answered my question about the definition of a legitimate pilot.

You also failed to tell me where you work, and why you are a legitimate pilot?



That was not edited out, my apologies about the misuse of the word legitimate

pokey9554 07-05-2008 02:11 PM

To all the non scab, hard working, "legitimate", non-leftover, PILOTS at Mesa, or any other airline, I apologize on behalf of all pilots that you may have read some of the previous garbage. If one wishes demise on another, then he is no better than JO or FL himself.

muushin 07-05-2008 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by pokey9554 (Post 419123)
To all the non scab, hard working, "legitimate", non-leftover, PILOTS at Mesa, or any other airline, I apologize on behalf of all pilots that you may have read some of the previous garbage. If one wishes demise on another, then he is no better than JO or FL himself.



Well Said pokey

paxhauler85 07-05-2008 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by muushin (Post 419116)
That was not edited out, my apologies about the misuse of the word legitimate

You still at Mesaba or are you a CFI now? So you lurk around the boards taking pot shots at Mesa guys?

Must suck to be 54 and have nothing better to do than pump yourself up by picking on guys half your age. How is it being a 54 year old regional F/O? Was it always your plan to make $30,000/year into your fifties? But hey, nothing personal.

Show me one post you have made that contains useful and/or mature information.

With the exception of your 5 posts about Mesaba, you have done nothing but flame.


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