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JDurham 07-13-2008 01:47 PM

From the way I understand it that is not all that uncommon of a situation. Each airport and TSA operation are somewhat of an independent entity. They have to follow general rules and practices but they can use measures outside of the norm (eg. no jumpseating without a boarding pass or uniform). Heard of the some of the same similar responses too such as "your airline doesn't operate here" thereby making you a non-operating crew member. In some cases these guys are just doing there jobs and all they know to look for is where is the boarding pass.

Paok 07-13-2008 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by fatmike69 (Post 424840)
A boarding pass is NEVER EVER EVER required, no matter what airport (in the US). That being said, I always have issues no matter where I go. One day in LAX no problem, the next day I need a boarding pass. Repeat for SLC, SFO, DEN, I've had issues everywhere. The problem is each individual TSA operates however they see fit. They certainly don't have to answer to the pilot group. And if you quote or reference the AOSSP to them in any way, they can have you arrested. It's a lose-lose unfortunately however you look at it, so if I get hassled, I just play the Saturday Night Live TSA skit in my head a couple times, and it makes me feel better at least for a little bit.

or TSA Gangsta's from Utube........... my fav

JDurham 07-13-2008 01:50 PM

Then again it could be an Okie thing. I love living there and love the people. Just many that you run in to do not use common sense.

Paok 07-13-2008 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by JDurham (Post 424850)
Then again it could be an Okie thing. I love living there and love the people. Just many that you run in to do not use common sense.

hahaha I am from the northeast and lived in Okiehoma for 3 years... what an experience that was.........

fatmike69 07-13-2008 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 424848)
or TSA Gangsta's from Utube........... my fav

Ah yes, that one would probably work just as good, if not better. TSA Gangstaz....that's good stuff :D

pokey9554 07-13-2008 03:55 PM

Keep pursuing the matter with the higher ups at the TSA. I had a similar situation in which I almost got arrested. I called, e-mailed, and snail mailed the TSA "customer service" people and got a letter which I carry around in my bag from the director of the TSA at JFK which says something like any crew member is allowed through a security checkpoint with a valid air carrier ID badge. The only exception is if a terminal in strictly for international based carriers. Get a direct phone number to someone who has a little bit of power.

Roper92 07-13-2008 04:17 PM

Can anyone get a copy of the TSA rules that show that boarding passes are not required for crew members whether in or out of uniform?

OntheMissed 07-13-2008 04:27 PM

You know, these people are just trying to do their job. Problem is they suck at their jobs so badly. It drives me crazy how there's almost zero continuity from station to station.

flynfr8 07-13-2008 04:39 PM

Jumpseat Issue
 
Contact your Jumpseat Coordinator and try to give as much detailed information as possible. They have the means of getting the situation addressed.

Good luck,
flynfr8

328dude 07-13-2008 04:44 PM

I've never had a problem in TUL, and I live here. Either in or out of uniform.


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