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Colnago 07-13-2008 05:18 PM

Ha! ...and they want to start giving those TSA idiots a badge.

sparerib11 07-13-2008 05:31 PM

I was told by ANC TSA guy the other day that 'crew' ID is only acceptable if you are in uniform.

I wasn't in uniform and made the mistake of handing him my boarding pass and my airline ID... he requested my drivers license. Should've kept the boarding pass in my pocket. I hate to say it but I tend to agree with the 'just wear the uniform' school of thought. Then you get to field the 'where's the airport lost-and-found?' questions.

SharkyBN584 07-13-2008 10:28 PM

At some point somewhere in this country TSA is going to push a crew member over the edge. When that happens, a string of swear words that would make a sailor blush is going to emit from said crew members mouth. I can only hope I'm standing in line behind that guy when it happens.

rsliman 07-13-2008 11:30 PM

I was commuting out of phx to fat thhis morning, got through security no problem, got to the gate and got my boarding pass, it had the dreaded ssss on it. the mesa gate agent said she cant take it off the boarding pass unless I was in "their system" I had to go back to security, where tsa opened all my bags, took all of my liquids - toothpaste, mouthwash, hair gel, water - and patted me down. I called for the supervisor.. to no avail... now im on a four day trip with no toiletries.... I was in FULL uniform.... Im still ****ed about this.. this is the first time ive had a gate agent refuse to take the ssss off the boarding pass, and the first time Ive had to go through secondary screening. tsa kept telling me that if I go down to the ticket counter I can have them take the ssss off the boarding pass, but the gate agent wouldnt have held the flight for me, and it was 20 min to departure. Im so frusterated with this system, and it needs to be changed.


CREWPASS NOW!

Bascuela 07-14-2008 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by rsliman (Post 425160)
I was commuting out of phx to fat thhis morning, got through security no problem, got to the gate and got my boarding pass, it had the dreaded ssss on it. the mesa gate agent said she cant take it off the boarding pass unless I was in "their system" I had to go back to security, where tsa opened all my bags, took all of my liquids - toothpaste, mouthwash, hair gel, water - and patted me down. I called for the supervisor.. to no avail... now im on a four day trip with no toiletries.... I was in FULL uniform.... Im still ****ed about this.. this is the first time ive had a gate agent refuse to take the ssss off the boarding pass, and the first time Ive had to go through secondary screening. tsa kept telling me that if I go down to the ticket counter I can have them take the ssss off the boarding pass, but the gate agent wouldnt have held the flight for me, and it was 20 min to departure. Im so frusterated with this system, and it needs to be changed.


CREWPASS NOW!


Yeah, I flew with a CA once where that happened to him while he was trying to commute out of DEN. He refused to let them take his stuff. Called CS and taken off the trip. I used to commute out of FAR. Same thing. Uniformed crew memebers HAD to have at least a departure card. I would list for the UAX flight and hit the kios on the way in. Small towns man...

not a good day for PHX today.

flynwmn 07-14-2008 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bascuela (Post 425167)
Yeah, I flew with a CA once where that happened to him while he was trying to commute out of DEN. He refused to let them take his stuff. Called CS and taken off the trip. I used to commute out of FAR. Same thing. Uniformed crew memebers HAD to have at least a departure card. I would list for the UAX flight and hit the kios on the way in. Small towns man...

not a good day for PHX today.

BTV tub stackers completely emptied my flight case and overnight bag and I was active crew. It's time to stop the power trip that is a tub stacker the badge is only going to make it worse.

aFflIgHt 07-14-2008 12:40 PM

Update
 
I called TSA in TUL @918-779-6400 and talked to the manager, his name is Chuck. He stated that the people at the front of the line were wrong in my case. He told me he would follow up with the people involved and that the rules state that an individual with a CREW badge may access security with no other rules attached except no liquids and gels...

I don't want to travel in uniform but it may come to that if the inconsistency keeps up.

Thanks for the advice.

MD-11Loader 07-14-2008 02:01 PM

I will have to go read the regs to be 100% sure, but IIRC your air carrier must serve the airport that you are trying to go security without a boarding pass. The TSA doesn't have to accept the crew I.D. if they don't want to. I have recurrent GSC in a few months, but if I am looking for some fun reading material on my next overnight I will thumb through the AOSSP and get the exact verbage.

Sniper 07-14-2008 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 425589)
I will have to go read the regs to be 100% sure, but IIRC your air carrier must serve the airport that you are trying to go security without a boarding pass. The TSA doesn't have to accept the crew I.D. if they don't want to.

What does "IIRC" mean?

supersix-4 07-14-2008 05:44 PM

TSA is so full of crap. words cannot express the way I feel about that worthless agency. I have come to this point of when I do commute, In uniform. I print out a boarding pass and keep it with me in the event that I get any hassle from some high school dropout on a powertrip. We all have had some issues with TSA, some of us worse then others. Because of this I try to be as prepared as possible in case I become a victim of TSA power-trips.
We all, as professionals need to be prepared for this every time we enter into the TSA "red-zone".
We do need CREW-PASS NOW!


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