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wrf2e 07-21-2008 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingNasaForm (Post 430642)
The TSA is worthless.

Pilots are screened. But gate agents and rampers (the ones with unrestricted access to the baggage compartments) are not.

Not sure where you are getting your info.....but we (gate agents and rampers) do get randomly screened....not only when going through to the ramp area but when coming from the ramp to the main terminal as well as random checks while on the ramp in-between flights.

Just an FYI

BURflyer 07-21-2008 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 430647)
Sorry but the pilot is still going to get behind the controls of the aircraft so who cares what he's carrying.

YouTube - Dollar Bill & Chopsticks
So long as this is possible I'm afraid none of us are safe.

That's right, if the CA starts screaming 'Allah is Great' you can be sure I'm going to have to knock him unconscious very quickly. TSA is fine it's just that I don't understand why they have so many issues with pilots, were background checked and we're just trying to do our jobs, why do they make it so difficult.

NZAV8R 07-22-2008 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by BURflyer (Post 430699)
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...TSA is fine it's just that I don't understand why they have so many issues with pilots, were background checked and we're just trying to do our jobs, why do they make it so difficult.

The TSA is far from fine. Their overzealous Gestapo searches on civilian pilots and are unnecessary and they know it. They also know that pilots will easily co-operate with them and will toe the line as, by the inherent nature of our vocation, we are trained to follow rules. Essentially it's all about control.

powrful1 07-22-2008 04:08 AM

Anyone that has been in the system for a while knows how to get ANYTHING through into the system, CrewPass might make it easier...but TSA needs to spot check pax, not people protecting pax from wx, mx, ground!

Killer51883 07-22-2008 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by loubetti (Post 430654)
Who's patting down the TSA agents?



How about we do that to the TSA? I mean if anyone is an "insider" who could do harm, who better than someone from the TSA.

Who is watching the TSA?


Ive been thinking of asking to see the TSA agents ID when they hound me in CMH. Im so sick of these jagoffs who are completley retarded and joke on the employee bus about steeling peoples stuff and making people late for their flights. They are almost just as bad as the terrorists themselves.


rant over

Iowa Farm Boy 07-22-2008 05:30 AM

A quote I heard attributed to a pilot getting 'the treatment' while going through security- "I can do more damage faster sitting in an airplane stark naked than three terrorists sitting in back with weapons." Or something like that. I think he was disciplined, for being honest. Honestly folks, if any member of the flight crew is intent on causing destruction, TSA screening won't do one thing to detect or stop it. It is bogus and meaningless to screen pilots, and is only to make someone else feel good.

ToiletDuck 07-22-2008 05:52 AM

Lets not forget that crash axe. They can pull my pocket knife but let me sit up there with a nice and fat, single handed, serrated axe with a pic on the other side of it.

Killer51883 07-22-2008 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 430759)
Lets not forget that crash axe. They can pull my pocket knife but let me sit up there with a nice and fat, single handed, serrated axe with a pic on the other side of it.


ha ha i should mention to them that ohh by the way i have an axe sitting next to me in the cockpit. i bet they would love that

UpFront 07-22-2008 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Longboarder29 (Post 430628)
They need to do these spot checks. Yes I know they are a pain in the arse but hey if they don't do them sooner or later someone is going to get the idea that they can get anything through there. Lets be honest there are people who are still trying to do us harm and random inspections do serve as a deterrent. And if you think all of the pilots out there are innocent and would never try brining anything through that they shouldn’t you’re only fooling yourself, and no I am not referring to nail clippers.
On a really unpopular note I am not a big fan of CrewPass either, it’s another weak point that people with bad intentions will try to exploit.

This guy is clearly NOT A PILOT!!! Looks like the TSA information commitee has come onto this site. This was the first post from this user and I hope it will be the last.

DYNASTY HVY 07-22-2008 06:27 AM

out on a limb
 

Originally Posted by Longboarder29 (Post 430628)
They need to do these spot checks. Yes I know they are a pain in the arse but hey if they don't do them sooner or later someone is going to get the idea that they can get anything through there. Lets be honest there are people who are still trying to do us harm and random inspections do serve as a deterrent. And if you think all of the pilots out there are innocent and would never try brining anything through that they shouldn’t you’re only fooling yourself, and no I am not referring to nail clippers.
On a really unpopular note I am not a big fan of CrewPass either, it’s another weak point that people with bad intentions will try to exploit.

Quick ? b4 bed time here .
We have avenues to file complaints with TSA yes ?
So if a TSA gets carried away with his or her duties then make a note and file a complaint ,just remember to get name and number .
Just my 2 cents .:eek:
They do this because they can and what does not surprise is the lack of an uproar from pax and crews ,if this had been done b4 9/11 ppl would have raised hell about this sort of treatment .
But then again its all about FEELING good .:rolleyes:


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