I worked as a ramp agent at LAX for six months last year and never got screened. I had un-checked access to aircraft every day. TSA is a joke.

I agree with Rickair and longboarder. The system is far from perfect, but it is completely necessary. Our airline IDs would be incredibly easy to duplicate, fake and use in conjunction with a storebought airline uniform. Until an incredibly reliable biometric scanning system is implemented in our airports, thorough screening of any person that wishes to have access to secure areas is necessary.

Are there a number of TSA agents out there on a power trip, rude, or otherwise unpleasant? Yes, but you might notice these qualities are found in almost any group of homo-sapiens, including pilots! Although I put my trust in my peers when reading checklists, and performing other crew member functions, that isn't to say that I would trust that person to make sound decisions in every aspect of their life (I mean shouldn't we all be a bit weary of any pilot who chose to go to Mesa ;) ).

I don't enjoy being hassled, but it is for the greater good. Inefficiencies are inherent in government agencies so I accept that and I attempt to be all the more vigilant in my own travels instead of spending my time griping about others' shortcomings.

They just better not take my lunch box...

What is wrong with airline id and passport as in the Crewpass test, give off this biometric crap...which is more easily defeated!

"but now I have to take off my shoes before I ride on a airliner"

A couple days ago I took my shoes off. The TSA screener pulled me aside and told me pilots in uniform don't have to take them off unless they will beep going through the detector. Mine won't and I will stop taking them off when in uniform.

I would like to respond, but this post is barely understandable :confused:

But I can't imagine how anybody would think that CASS is as secure as a some type of retinal/fingerprit or other biometric scan would be

First off, let me just say, I am as calm as ever and will not argue but I will contribute information as I see fit as this is a public forum. And no, the "CSA" is not gonna compare with the "PILOT"(complete strangers) how many times a day one gets molested by the TSA. No offense but the "CSA" would prefer internet porn.

Ok, let me try to break it down a bit because clearly you are missing the WHOLE point. My reply to your comment was due to earlier in the thread when you said pilots are getting screened however ramp agents/fuelers/cleaners aren't. No, I am not sitting in the flight deck nor will I ever say what you did or didn't see. Hell, I haven't even had the opportunity to work in JFK however, I have worked in various airports in Florida, Ohio, Vermont, and Michigan. You are right, different airports/stations has different ways of operating. And yes, I have witnessed pilots getting mugged by the TSA. I have delayed flights to wait for jumpseaters who called me personally just to get them on. But to say, CSA don't get screened is definitely a false statement. Now if I misunderstood you then I apologize, have a heineken on me. Again, no arguements, because WE ALL get violated by the TSA MOB.

First off, let me just say, I am as calm as ever and will not argue but I will contribute information as I see fit as this is a public forum. And no, the "CSA" is not gonna compare with the "PILOT"(complete strangers) how many times a day one gets molested by the TSA. No offense but the "CSA" would prefer internet porn.

Ok, let me try to break it down a bit because clearly you are missing the WHOLE point. My reply to your comment was due to earlier in the thread when you said pilots are getting screened however ramp agents/fuelers/cleaners aren't. No, I am not sitting in the flight deck nor will I ever say what you did or didn't see. Hell, I haven't even had the opportunity to work in JFK however, I have worked in various airports in Florida, Ohio, Vermont, and Michigan. I have also visited other stations for different reasons. You are right, different airports/stations has different ways of operating. And yes, I have witnessed pilots getting mugged by the TSA. I have delayed flights to wait for jumpseaters who called me personally just to get them on. But to say, CSA don't get screened is definitely a false statement. Now if I misunderstood you then I apologize, have a heineken on me. Again, no arguements, because WE ALL get violated by the TSA MOB.

True. I have non-magnetic shoes, watch, and belt buckle...the only thing I have to do is throw my cell phone a tray. Of course I always forget when I'm in civies and get yelled at for leaving them on.

This is the thread that I am going based off of. Ok, so it wasn't you who said it(another Heineken on me) but this is not true.