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meeko031 08-03-2008 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ135 (Post 437914)
I'm going to see what the lines look like in JFK and try to bid back. Didn't realize that I'd be bidding almost halfway up the list there.


Me too... not to disappoint you, but Iam also planning on transferring to JFK!!:) see you there

rollercoaster 08-03-2008 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by FOblondie (Post 438109)
Different note, does this situation sound like maybe there was a mistake - currently I'm an ord emj fo, jan 08 doh, proffer to displace to dfw in either the atr or the emb. I didn't get either, I'm still an ord emj fo. I've got over 200 below me, how did I not get dfw?

There were no ORD - FO positions on the displacement bid. ORD had only vacancies. You were not displaced from your current position (either normal or proffer). There were no DFE vacancies. Therefore pilots awarded DFE were displaced from their current position into DFE. There were DFA vacancies, however, you were not displaced from your current position so you can't preference bid from jet FO to turboprop FO.

Sounds like you must have picked ORD as a new hire domicile. Why do you want DFW now? Just curious.

withthatsaid182 08-04-2008 07:49 AM

i'm trying to figure out how anyone is going to be able to commute anymore with the airlines cutting back flights...i think within the first two weeks of boston closing i'm burning up my commuter clause cards and getting 4 missed assignments...

FOblondie 08-04-2008 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by rollercoaster (Post 438129)
There were no ORD - FO positions on the displacement bid. ORD had only vacancies. You were not displaced from your current position (either normal or proffer). There were no DFE vacancies. Therefore pilots awarded DFE were displaced from their current position into DFE. There were DFA vacancies, however, you were not displaced from your current position so you can't preference bid from jet FO to turboprop FO.

Sounds like you must have picked ORD as a new hire domicile. Why do you want DFW now? Just curious.

Thanks for explaining that. I knew if I took the time to actually think about it I would figure it out, but it's a lot easier to just have it explained.

Yep, I picked ORD as a new hire. I didn't want to commute so for a few reasons I chose Chicago. Then I got there and realized I didn't like the city and if I'm going to not commute I'd rather do it in Dallas.

Also I wanted the ATR because I don't like how we can't go from a jet to prop and I wanted to leave my options open. But hey, at least I'm not furloughed yet, so that's good!

What do you think the odds are there'll be DFE vacancies in the near future?

Pontius Pilot 08-04-2008 09:25 AM

I don't know what the DFE odds are. A few of my DFE friends are now DFA friends...so I'll bet they aren't great.

coldpilot 08-04-2008 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by FOblondie (Post 438109)
Not to be a downer, but a lot of people are saying that this is only the first round and things could potentially get bad again in a few months. Of course a lot of people are crazy too. I flew with a guy the other day who thought that Delta disguised the voices of their pilots in the headsets so that you couldn't tell who was who. Random I know, but it shows that people don't always know what they're talking about. If you've got the opportunity to go somewhere else, do that and if Eagle calls you in a few months, awesome.

Different note, does this situation sound like maybe there was a mistake - currently I'm an ord emj fo, jan 08 doh, proffer to displace to dfw in either the atr or the emb. I didn't get either, I'm still an ord emj fo. I've got over 200 below me, how did I not get dfw?

You can't proffer to displace if you are seat locked. That's why you are still OFE. Since you weren't displaced either you can't vacancy bid for a prop.

Mason32 08-04-2008 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by coldpilot (Post 438428)
You can't proffer to displace if you are seat locked. That's why you are still OFE. Since you weren't displaced either you can't vacancy bid for a prop.

There are no seat locks in a displacement bid. If he didn't get DFW EMJ or ATR then it is because more senior people to him got it.

withthatsaid182 08-04-2008 04:43 PM

i bid for the shorts outta krdu but didn't get it....

coldpilot 08-04-2008 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 438499)
There are no seat locks in a displacement bid. If he didn't get DFW EMJ or ATR then it is because more senior people to him got it.

Proffering to displace is a voluntary bid. Seat locks apply. You can't proffer to displace if you are seat locked and a seat lock is also incurred if you do proffer to displace.

All of it is explained in plain language in the "Displacement, furlough, recall '101'" guide put out by Eagle ALPA. It was sent out in an email on June 24.

Pontius Pilot 08-04-2008 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 438564)
i bid for the shorts outta krdu but didn't get it....

Yeah, I wanted the CASA out of Marquette...but that didn't happen either.


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