Not so sure that's a good idea. Sue ALPA, let's just say you won a suit against them and got to keep your job. How fast do you think you would be booted from ALPA? Maybe that's what you want, I don't know, but then watch how fast you are out of a job for good with any other ALPA carrier.

What are you? 8 years old or something? :rolleyes:

The lawsuit would be against the company. They are the ones utimately responsible for what is offered to the employees. If ALPA had to be put into it, oh well.

In this day and age, no company hires based on someones standing with ALPA. Throwing me out of ALPA for a lawsuit would be ILLEGAL. If I got thrown out of ALPA, that sounds like a HUGE (like my salary at a potential carrier until I was 65, plus pain and suffering, mental anguish, etc) lawsuit IF I did not get hired at another ALPA carrier, of which there is only 1 I would work for...FedEx. The other 3 carriers that I would go to are not ALPA.

The type of lawyers that I use are the ones who get paid if I get paid. Granted they take a greater percentage (usually 33 1/3%) but there is not money out of pocket.

Maybe the volutary furlough portion of the contract is void now, but nothing was "explored" to prevent furloughs, and 6.75% of the potential furloughs were offered cola!!!

6.75% That is TOTAL BULL$HIT.

Of course they wouldn't be dumb enough to fire you and say that their reason for doing so was that you sued them. In an industry held to such high standards, they would find a way to get you. Besides, ALPA would take you out of good standing or remove you from the union. Then you are left fighting the company with no respresentation. Try the company and see if they can't fire a pilot who is not represented.

of course they ARE dumb enough to fire me for that. That will just be a chance I may be taking soon.

AND It is covered in the "MEC in the dark" thread, but AGAIN, it is not my job to call the union to find out what the heck is going on. I pay A LOT of money to ALPA and it is THEIR job to inform me, PERIOD.

What would they say IF i were to waste my time and call??
"I am sorry, we do not know anything new today. We are not talking with the company right now. We are still in a ****ing contest over past items. We will worry about the furloughs and the displacements when we get the past issues solved.":)

One thing I find interesting is that the company gave a list of projected furloughs for Sept 1. It was my understanding that in order to furlough one must receive a WARN letter with 60 days notice. Anyone care to comment on the fact this has not happened?

read here maybe I missed something

Fact Sheet - The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act

If you read the link you just posted, it also says that they don't have to give you that notice. The notice can be given to your UNION and I am sure that the company has given ALPA a 60 day notice when we started hearing about this over 2 months ago.

I didn't know ALPA threw out the RJDC guys. When did that happen?

Hmmm, two flavors of Kool-Aid going around here... which one has less poison in it. Ahh screw it. I'll think on my own, thank you.