I was at MAPD as CFI (FMN) from August 04 to August 05. Would I know you?

And flyhigh - another option would be to WORK at MAPD, since you have you CFI, etc. They will hire people with your time, hands down. It's a 12 month contract. I left after just shy of 12 months and logged around 950 hours and 280 multi in that time, and grossed $27k, full benefits, etc. It's a good gig, check it out...

Pardon my ignorance on ICAO issues but why would you have to satisfy the ICAO ATP minimums for an RJ upgrade if you don't fly internationally? Also, I though ICAO ATPL minimums are very similar to the FAA ATP minimums anyway, no?

Mesa does extensive international operations, and they do not want to have to schedule those ops around Captains who are not ICAO ATP's, hence every Mesa CA must meet ICAO mins.

ICAO mins are similar, BUT the big difference is that the US requires only 250 PIC, while ICAO requires 1200 PIC. You can get 50% credit towards most of this PIC from 121 SIC, but that can take a while...four+ years seems common :eek:

I believe I can answer your questions...

1) Pay scale looks crappy for FOs, however if you come in with 1000+ then you can upgrade in less than 2 years...so you have to look at the CA payscale after 2 years.

2) Work rules are non-existant.

3) You are guaranteed 75 hours/month

4) You can fly 20-95+ hours per month depending on seniority and personal desires. It is not impossible to fly high 90's all year and then have December off (with pay).

5) Mesa only pays you when you are actually flying (and even then it's average, not actual block time). Many other airlines pay actual block times and have a duty rig where you get paid 1 hour for every 2 or 3 hours on duty, regardless of how much you fly.

6) If you want a fast upgrade, Mesa might be the answer.

7) If you want to spend your career at a regional Skywest, Horizon, and Air Whisket are probably better choices.

8) Mesa's contract is up in 2007, and the pilots are P*SSED OFF :mad: There is a good chance that there will be significant work rule enhancements in a couple years. If you're a gambling man (or girl), go to Mesa, upgrade, and then hopefully enjoy a better contract...

Freezinflyboy and Rickair,

thanks alot. That's what I was looking for...or maybe not actually! At least I know better now what they're talking about.

THX!

Thank you.

I have 1000hrs 150 multi I am a cfi and I was thinking of applying. Though I have a few questions.

1) What are junior bases?

2) What type of A/C would I most likley get on?

3) Is it commutable?

4) What is "standing overnight" mean?

5) Do you think I would have a decent shot on getting on with them? I have no violations or anything.

1) CRJ: IAD & ORD
ERJ: MCO
D8: GJT (this could change when D8 service begins on the east Coast this summer)
1900: Anywhere

2) CRJ most likely, ERJ second, D8 third, 1900 least likely. The D8 could be much more likely in the near to future due to expansion.

3) Standup Overnight is any overnight shift that provides less than legal (8 hour rest).
Some of these are not bad:
Depart PHX: 2200
Arrive Dest: 0030
Hotel: 0100-0730
Depart Dest: 0830
Arrive PHX: 1000
You got some decent sleep, you're done at 1000 with the rest of the day off (this does not count against your minimum days off)

Some standups are really ugly: Start at 1900, fly multiple legs ALL night long, sleep in the back of the airplane for between 0330-0530 at some outstation, then return to base at 1000. Go home and try to sleep.

4) I would estimate you have a very good chance, they need FO's right now. Study the gouge you can find on the internet and the ATP Gliem book.

Thanks rick, One more what east coast bases for the Dash are opening? I heard maybe JFK from the other thread anywhere else?

ORF
PHL
SYR
ALB
PVD
BDL
RIC
BWI