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buffalopilot 08-07-2008 09:18 AM

Comair and collections
 
Left Comair 1.4 years ago and got a call from collections today that I owe $333 on my uniform. I never got a bill or anything and they confiscated my last check i thought for my uniform. Any one else get this from them who left there? They sent it right to collections?!?

TurboDog 08-07-2008 09:22 AM

Once again, I am almost embarrassed to work here. They called me a few months ago, because I had a pager that I never turned in 3 years ago and said that if I didn't return it that they were going to charge me 100.00 for it. In the contract is says the cost of a pager is around 45 or 50.00 or something like that.

I believe small claims court is anything over 300.00 :D

flycrj200 08-07-2008 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by buffalopilot (Post 440310)
Left Comair 1.4 years ago and got a call from collections today that I owe $333 on my uniform. I never got a bill or anything and they confiscated my last check i thought for my uniform. Any one else get this from them who left there? They sent it right to collections?!?

If you owe the money, you have to pay it. You can check with payroll to find how much you owe.

Chperplt 08-07-2008 11:48 AM

I also still have my pager.... :D

buffalopilot 08-07-2008 11:50 AM

its not the point of paying, its not getting the chance to pay it@

what is comairs phone #?

fjetter 08-07-2008 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by buffalopilot (Post 440406)
its not the point of paying, its not getting the chance to pay it@

what is comairs phone #?

PM sent with payroll's number

Airsupport 08-07-2008 12:01 PM

how do you all owe money for uniforms, even after 3.5 years.

at pinnacle they pay for half of your uniform, and payroll deduct the rest in installments every check till it is paid off. mine was paid off in under a year. do you keep ordering stuff from them? does comair have their own uniform department?

fjetter 08-07-2008 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 440421)
how do you all owe money for uniforms, even after 3.5 years.

at pinnacle they pay for half of your uniform, and payroll deduct the rest in installments every check till it is paid off. mine was paid off in under a year. do you keep ordering stuff from them? does comair have their own uniform department?

Crew Outfitters has a store here in CVG and they allowed us to pretty much get anything there and have it payroll deducted at about $25 a paycheck min. So in addition to uniforms people probably had rollaboards, flight cases, headsets, etc. to pay for. Which as we all know gets expensive quick. They have since stopped this program except for new-hires, they can still get uniforms deducted. Even current employees are being asked to pay up quick. Not sure on the time table there was a memo about a month ago about it.

Boomer 08-07-2008 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by buffalopilot (Post 440310)
they confiscated my last check i thought for my uniform.

It's in the contract. Well, since the contract changed after you left... 7.G.6:

... If the pilots' (sic) last paycheck does not have sufficient funds available for the adjustment, the Company will assume the liability for the remaining amount. The intent here is that that no pilot will be required to provide monies to the company in excess of any moneys which may be available in the pilot's last paycheck.

The topic is Vacation payout, but the "intent" is clearly stated that you don't owe Comair more than what your last paycheck can cover.

ALPA doesn't have a CBA with FlightStation, so you'll have to read the fine print when you payroll deducted your junk. You kept the paperwork for that, didn't you? :D

ComairFO 08-07-2008 01:06 PM

The remaining balance of current employees must be repaid in the next 20 paychecks, I believe.......

andy171773 08-07-2008 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by ComairFO (Post 440481)
The remaining balance of current employees must be repaid in the next 20 paychecks, I believe.......

Yep we have 10 months from that memo...but my paycheck deduct amount hasn't changed, any else notice this?

Thumbs882 08-07-2008 02:19 PM

Mine changed..went up to about 45

flyandive 08-07-2008 03:26 PM

Mine went from $25 to $36, starting on June 1st? or 15th? Can't remember. Either they screwed up (big surprise!) or that's all you owe.

overworked 08-07-2008 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 440311)
Once again, I am almost embarrassed to work here. They called me a few months ago, because I had a pager that I never turned in 3 years ago and said that if I didn't return it that they were going to charge me 100.00 for it. In the contract is says the cost of a pager is around 45 or 50.00 or something like that.

I believe small claims court is anything over 300.00 :D

I'm curious as to why you would be embarassed because the company wants the money that's owed to them, and they are apparently charging you interest on that money.

Did you in fact really have the pager? Did you think you were supposed to keep it after you were done with it? Surely you didn't. On the surface, it sounds like you were trying to stick it to the company.
To the person who owed $300+ on the uniforms, did you think you weren't responsible either? Come on give me a break.

Because of that kind of mentality, the rest of us cannot payroll deduct any of our uniforms.

If you owe somebody money, they shouldn't have to come to you to get it.

Have you ever lent some money to a friend? If the friend didn't pay you back, after confronting the friend, would it **** you off if the friend said, "Well you never came to me to get it, so I figured you didn't want your money back that I borrowed"?

hslightnin 08-07-2008 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by buffalopilot (Post 440310)
Left Comair 1.4 years ago and got a call from collections today that I owe $333 on my uniform. I never got a bill or anything and they confiscated my last check i thought for my uniform. Any one else get this from them who left there? They sent it right to collections?!?


Originally Posted by overworked (Post 440589)
I'm curious as to why you would be embarassed because the company wants the money that's owed to them, and they are apparently charging you interest on that money.


To the person who owed $300+ on the uniforms, did you think you weren't responsible either? Come on give me a break.

Because of that kind of mentality, the rest of us cannot payroll deduct any of our uniforms.

If you owe somebody money, they shouldn't have to come to you to get it.

Have you ever lent some money to a friend? If the friend didn't pay you back, after confronting the friend, would it **** you off if the friend said, "Well you never came to me to get it, so I figured you didn't want your money back that I borrowed"?

They took his last pay check. Now im sure he made more then $333 per pay check so unless he had over $1000 in uniform bills then he should be square.
Now if comair sent it to collections and its on ur credit report Dont pay. contact a lawyer.

overworked 08-07-2008 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 440612)
They took his last pay check. Now im sure he made more then $333 per pay check so unless he had over $1000 in uniform bills then he should be square.
Now if comair sent it to collections and its on ur credit report Dont pay. contact a lawyer.

Not pointing any fingers, but there was a handful of people who owed well over $2000, when they left the company. It almost seemed premeditated.

I know a lot of people want to stick it to the company, cause in their mind the company has stuck it to them, but that's a little ridiculous.

I'm curious if the guy who posted that will comment and tell us what his balance was before he left. Sure they should have taken more than $333 per pay check, but if they didn't, and he knows he owed more, then the right thing to do would be to contact someone and make it right, as opposed to saying, "wow I got away with one there".

It's like people doing their taxes every year. Some take outrageous deductions, then when they don't hear about it for a year, they figure they got away with it. All the sudden two years into it, they get audited by the IRS. The IRS disallows the deductions, then charges penalties and interest on the disallowed amount. These people then cry about having to pay penalties and interest, when they just got caught red handed.

buffalopilot 08-08-2008 05:06 AM

If you read the post, I contacted the company when I quit and they took my last check to cover it. Then all of a sudden i owe $333 and they never told me, it went right to collections, illegal!

hslightnin 08-08-2008 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by overworked (Post 440745)
Not pointing any fingers, but there was a handful of people who owed well over $2000, when they left the company. It almost seemed premeditated.

dam thats allot of epaulets

Oberon 08-08-2008 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by buffalopilot (Post 440893)
If you read the post, I contacted the company when I quit and they took my last check to cover it. Then all of a sudden i owe $333 and they never told me, it went right to collections, illegal!


You should declare bankruptcy and default on the money you owe Comair...oh the sweet revenge...:D

FLAK 08-11-2008 07:01 PM

I got that collections letter too. Seems like i owe some money from my uniform as well. I'm pretty sure they deducted the balance out of my last paycheck, but just to be sure i'm looking through my old shoeboxes full of old paystubs to cover my arse. 4 possibilities: 1. maybe i really do owe them money. doubtful. 2. payroll screwed up. hmmm. 3. someone went on a shopping spree on my behalf. 4. someone in payroll or the crew store is putting cash in their pockets and billing me. that place is so corrupt...

doug_or 08-11-2008 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by buffalopilot (Post 440893)
If you read the post, I contacted the company when I quit and they took my last check to cover it. Then all of a sudden i owe $333 and they never told me, it went right to collections, illegal!

I went through something similar after a telephone company sent something to collections without successfully contacting me first (allegedly for not paying a bill over 4 years ago). You have rights (I don't remember what they are, but google is your friend). I sent them some letters, formally disputed the claim, and generally made a PITA out of myself. They seem to have given up and there's nothing on my credit report.

Blkflyer 08-12-2008 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by doug_or (Post 442938)
I went through something similar after a telephone company sent something to collections without successfully contacting me first (allegedly for not paying a bill over 4 years ago). You have rights (I don't remember what they are, but google is your friend). I sent them some letters, formally disputed the claim, and generally made a PITA out of myself. They seem to have given up and there's nothing on my credit report.


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flycrj200 08-12-2008 08:17 AM

Do the right thing and pay what you owe.

Blkflyer 08-12-2008 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by flycrj200 (Post 443069)
Do the right thing and pay what you owe.

Flycrj200 no one is trying to get out of what they owe.. I wish you would read the full Thread before making your self look well you know....

Blkflyer 08-12-2008 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by flycrj200 (Post 443069)
Do the right thing and pay what you owe.

Oh and flycrj200 do some research on FDCPA. debt may be legitimate or not that does not give any company to send you straight to a Collections Agency after 1.4 years without ever sending you any bill the point is company has rights and the consumer has rights aswell what Comair is doing may not be Illegal but it sure aint Ethical either...

Fly safe...

flycrj200 08-12-2008 08:44 AM

If you know that you owe the money, you should pay it and not try to find a loopwhole to get out of paying what you owe.

Blkflyer 08-12-2008 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by flycrj200 (Post 443092)
If you know that you owe the money, you should pay it and not try to find a loopwhole to get out of paying what you owe.

Did you read my previous post.. I am not going to get my blood pressure raised because you want to argue.. the info was posted for just that. INFO now dont you have a Trip to go fly or are you bored on reserve....

Blkflyer 08-12-2008 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by flycrj200 (Post 443092)
If you know that you owe the money, you should pay it and not try to find a loopwhole to get out of paying what you owe.

Oh and most people dont know they owe anything.. as the company took what you owe then out of your final paycheck.. then again let me stop cause you are a KNOW IT ALL...


Fly Safe

byebyeairlines 08-12-2008 09:04 AM

Hey fly, how long you been at this company. I have been here almost 9 years and payroll gets it screwed up at least once a quarter. The guy isn't saying he isn't going to pay it, but why should he pay extra to these vermin. I payroll deducted once, and those idiots continued to deduct every month beyond what I owed. I finally threatened to take the union to the G.O. and they stopped. I got paid a check of the over payments shortly after the threat. I am sure he is going to pay if it is warranted, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was ANOTHER payroll error...

Line holder 08-12-2008 09:05 PM

I also have recived a letter telling me I owe Comair. When I was leaving without finishing OE I asked about that and was told they didnt know. Now a year later I magically went to collections with out so much as one bill. Im not paying. If they touch my credit Ill sue. It wont cost me a dime I have lawyers in the fam. and for the one who say we should just pay...feel free to send mine in.


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