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stobelma 08-11-2008 06:51 PM

Man you guys are tearing this one apart......I have never been on a Mesa flight but there are always gonna be those flights where nothing goes right.....give them a break.....unless this is a common thing

PittsburghDude 08-11-2008 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by atlmsl (Post 442847)
Was the flight attendants name.... Penny Benjamin??? Just a guess


that informations classified

Airsupport 08-11-2008 07:03 PM

lol, topgun. you make me laugh. no more regionals huh? well you wont be getting very far.

steak pilot 08-11-2008 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by topgun (Post 442845)
I came up through the ranks, CFI, corporate, regional, 121, furloughed, 121, corporate. A 1st class operation this was not!

Well if you have so much experience, you should know that new people come on and that you can get unexpected delays and gate changes. What's the exception to this one flight?

cubflyer 08-11-2008 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by topgun (Post 442679)
I was a passenger on a Mesa UA express flight today out of Dulles. What a poor experience it was:
1)12:22 out of A swithced at last minute to 1:20 out of C concourse.
2)Flight boards at 1200 leaving paz behind until they scream to get on board.
3)Flight attendent brand new.Reads all announcements off a classroom handout with back to pax. 3rd graders could have done better. Very unprofessional.
4) We wait for fuel -20 additional mins after sched dept.
5)2 people have to move from front to back for Weight and Balance THEN they put 450lbs ballast in aft baggage because they LEAVE ALL PASSENGER BAGS behind because they will not wiat for them to come over from concourse A!
6) FO is on IOE (initial operating experince) flight.
What a joke.

Our new company policy will be: NO MORE REGIONALS. No wonder business aviation is growing!

1. Gate switch is not the fault of the crew. Maybe the original gate was occupied due to an arrogant, disruptive passenger (former aviation great) being booted off the flight. Happens at major airlines and regionals.......
2. Again, not the crews fault.......happens at all majors and regionals.
3. Even Flight Attendants are new hires at some point.......I would rather have an FA read the announcement correctly from the card, than have him/her give an incorrect pax announcement. Of course most pax ignore the announcements completely. Obviously, you don't.
4. Not the airline or crews fault. Major airlines and regionals, at some point, have to wait to be fueled at busy airports.
5. Not the crews fault that they have to balance the CG. Too bad that bags were left behind, but the crew has to address the weight and balance issue that is presented to them.
6. IOE is a part of the training environment. I'm sure the FO was doing his best to LEARN.

As an aviation wonder, I'm sure you never had to do IOE.......right TOPGUN?

Give them a break. We've all been there.

stinsonjr 08-11-2008 07:07 PM

He's lost that lovin feeling...

atlmsl 08-11-2008 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by PittsburghDude (Post 442855)
that informations classified

You could tell me but then you'd have to kill me? I get it...

steak pilot 08-11-2008 07:17 PM

Well if you were directly above him... how could you see him?

Because I was inverted!:cool:

stobelma 08-11-2008 07:18 PM

He is just mad that it was delayed so he missed riding his motorcycle to the beach volleyball tournament

Drums4life 08-11-2008 07:21 PM

I think the topic of this thread should cover the mess out of JFK lately. Tomorrow will be day 3 trying to make it home. Gotta love it!


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