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#11
was just about to ask, new hires? what airline are you flying for anyway?
All my FO's have nearly a thousand in type
soon enough, i'll be an FO, and i have TPIC in type. but im a happy camper. lol.
All my FO's have nearly a thousand in type
soon enough, i'll be an FO, and i have TPIC in type. but im a happy camper. lol.
#13
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We kind of have the same issue with some of the Tokai and Air China students up here in Grand Forks. They are very bright kids, however I think their English is a huge problem, and at times compromises safety.
We have students doing their first solos, these Tokai and Air China students who don't speak English very well, and on top of that we have a pretty confusing temporary airport layout, as one of the primary runways we use is closed. The controllers can give some pretty confusing taxi instructions and approach instructions since GFK is basically down to one runway. I really think that all these factors together are just a terrible mix. Not to mention the combination of the Asian students with very little English doing their first solos as well... But everyone has to start somewhere I guess.
It's definitely started making me look for traffic far more than I did before. Just because you're doing what ATC instructed you to do, doesn't mean someone else didn't completely botch their own instructions... I hope UND does something about it. Maybe require them to meet a certain level of the language rather than trying to make money off of them right away. I hope it doesn't take an accident for something to be done about it.
P.S. I sat here and proof read my post for probably 15 minutes just so I wouldn't get drilled about my bad English! I'm sure someone will still find something! Ha
We have students doing their first solos, these Tokai and Air China students who don't speak English very well, and on top of that we have a pretty confusing temporary airport layout, as one of the primary runways we use is closed. The controllers can give some pretty confusing taxi instructions and approach instructions since GFK is basically down to one runway. I really think that all these factors together are just a terrible mix. Not to mention the combination of the Asian students with very little English doing their first solos as well... But everyone has to start somewhere I guess.
It's definitely started making me look for traffic far more than I did before. Just because you're doing what ATC instructed you to do, doesn't mean someone else didn't completely botch their own instructions... I hope UND does something about it. Maybe require them to meet a certain level of the language rather than trying to make money off of them right away. I hope it doesn't take an accident for something to be done about it.
P.S. I sat here and proof read my post for probably 15 minutes just so I wouldn't get drilled about my bad English! I'm sure someone will still find something! Ha
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I would agree...EXCEPT when they launch off into their native language ...leaving you to wonder exactly what it was he was saying that you might need to be aware of.......
When I worked in Europe we had to take a 'voice' course as part of the training. I am a native English speaker and scoffed at the idea. Until I actually started flying around Europe to 20 different countries with 20 different languages and accents. The standardization that existed there allowed for far less confusion.
I would advocate the same standardization here in the US. It really does reduce confusion if you are saying and listening to the same things for the same procedures.
I would advocate the same standardization here in the US. It really does reduce confusion if you are saying and listening to the same things for the same procedures.
#17
Or Mesa?... lol. There are plenty of American, native English speaking folks trying to get airline jobs... Too bad for affirmative action, really gives minorities an upper hand advantage. Oh well... back to dreaming that all FA's are 23 year old nurses and single...
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Or Mesa?... lol. There are plenty of American, native English speaking folks trying to get airline jobs... Too bad for affirmative action, really gives minorities an upper hand advantage. Oh well... back to dreaming that all FA's are 23 year old nurses and single... 

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