DCI Rumor
 

I heard this week in a meeting in ATL, Delta is thinking of putting ASA into MEM after the merger with 20-30 900's. Delta wants less 50's, so they may be pulling down Pinnacle 200's and replacing them with 900's.

This would be a great score for ASA pilots!!!! ASA could really use the growth, since the loss of all the ATR's. Delta wants to keep the flying spread around, and with Pinnacles potential union issues and negotiations, they may want to protect the MEM hub, much like they did when moving more Comair, Skywest, CHQ, Republic and Freedom into ATL during ASA's negotiations to protect themselves from a possible strike.

Look for the announcement soon after the merger is complete.

And dont forget we are hiring the Arizona State cheerleaders as our new FA's to work these new 900's.

And who did you hear this from? The brother of the the the guy that has a friend who walks the dog of the guy that works at the coffee place that the guy who cleans the carpet for the guy that cleans the car of the guy that works at ASA.

So what happens to Comair,Mesaba and Compass? I thought the wholly owned carriers were the safer of all the regionals with SUPER DELTA.

As long as Skywest ownes ASA they will never see the 900. All 900's that Skywest/ASA gets will be flown by Skywest.

As long as Skywest ownes ASA they will never see the 900. All 900's that Skywest/ASA gets will be flown by Skywest

Why do you say that? ASA had a 900 program in place before Skywest! Brad Holt has sent out memos that ASA is ressurrecting the 900 program as we speak. Why would ASA do that if BH has been told from Utah that ASA will never fly them?!? Didn't JA say that Skywest will concentrate on Western flying (and Mid-west) and ASA should be concentrated on the East flying! Isn't that why ASA was sent out of SLC?

Is ASA not qualified to fly a CRJ900?

Just want to know why you make such a claim.


PS....ASA is also carrying extra pilots for something "in case" it comes up.

SkyWest is carrying extra pilots in case something comes up too. Take it for what it is worth.

Um....no.

Straight from someone at the said meeting discussing future DCI moves post merger and post Freedumb.

First off you are trusting an airline manager. You said ASA HAD a 900 program till Shywest came along, there you go. ASA is way qualified to fly those birds, Mesa and Peenuckle should go away. Why does Skywest fly out of ATL yet ASA has not seen SLC in over a year. Skywest has claimed their turf and will not give it up. No matter what that airline manager has to say to keep ya'll happy. I wish ASA nothing but the best and can't wait for the day that DCI is Comair, ASA, and skywest again.

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As well as Mesaba and Compass, though I suspect somebody is getting merged into someone else.

Anyone involved in any high level meetings would not discuss such things to people outside of the need to know basis. In addition to opening themselves up to huge liability issues and possibly putting their job on the line, they already know that anything discussed at that level is confidential. If this person is stupid enough to discuss that outside of the boardroom, then he/she is a complete moron.

I boil this one down to a pipedream on someone's wish list at best.

This does not need to become a SKW vs. ASA thread! If ASA gets CR9's then those in more important positions made the decision, not us peons. ASA deserves them just as much as anyone else and a MEM base would do their pilot moral wonders. But, I do think DAL's 76 seat/85K MTW scope clause is almost spent. That is unless DAL gets additional airframes for mainline pilots (I think it's a 4:1 ratio).

Don't believe rumors until the a/c are on property.

This is about as likely to happen as the topic of this thread. Unfortunately, the days of 3 DCI carriers are over.

I could be wrong, though. I have been known to make a mistake every now and then.

truman sparks, no one is buying into your sad and pathetic attempt to take a stab at the pinnacle pilots. so you heard this during the week huh?? well you just posted this 2 hours ago in the pinnacle thread

your sad attempt to stir the pot is just that. an attempt. there was no meeting. you chose memphis because you are mad at the pinnacle pilots. sorry about that. the pilots have nothing to do with management decisions. move on, or get out.

Just telling you what I heard. Call it what you like!

Now, where can I get some good barbeque in MEM???

right right right,, you heard that rumor during the week, but didn't put it in the pinnacle thread! LOL you are funny guy. and there are several good bbq places here in mem, you should come look at a crashpad i am renting since you will be moving here soon. although you might be working for pinnacle when you do come here! :)

ps. sorry if you are getting displaced.

rendezvous!!

Yummmmm, but not the best I've had. Good thing about MEM is that you can get good to great BBQ on any street corner and in the APT.

I love MEM overnights but I could NEVER live there, maybe and I said MAYBE in one of the smaller surrounding cities but not in MEM. My sister-n-law lives in Germantown, TN; she move there from closer in for many many reasons.

I my mind there is only two good things about MEM……………….BBQ and Cost Of Living.

that is the truth man. i live just outside collierville and would never even think of being in the mem city limits. you guys used to stay at the holiday in downtown huh. that is a good spot. you got beale street around the corner, rendevouz downstairs, and a nice movie theatre and shopping mall close by. downtown memphis is pretty nice. just dont venture out to far.

I want everyone to read this. Everyone calls Pinnacle a bottom feeder and that we are always trying to steal everyone's flying. I have rarely ever seen a pinnacle pilot celebrate on here at another regionals expense. Yet we see stuff like this. Pinnacle has never taken anyones flying, all 124 of our crj 200's were new aircraft and all 16 of our 900's are new airplanes. We might have taken over some routes of ASA mesaba or NWA in the past, but not planes. Regardless its not our deicision anyways. So ASA guys, I am sorry we are in your home territory but please remember that managers make the decisions, not pilots so try supporting us instead of trying to get rid of us.

Please remember this comment if and when you see Comair and ASA aircraft in DTW and MSP flying traditional Pinnacle and Mesaba routes.

Im not to worried about it, infact i expect comair to be in dtw post merger, operating mostly 900's out of the base. Delta is doing an excellent job getting everyone to perform better by leaking all of these fake rumours.

you couldn't have put it any better...

As was once stated by another poster in another related thread, the only people who know who is getting what (if anyone even knows that at this point) are the people high enough up that have signed non-disclosure agreements. My bro is a mid-level manager at a huge US corporation, and even though his company's products have virtually no competition, the first day he started work he had to sign nda's out the wazoo saying he wouldn't release any sensitive confidential info.

Think about it...do you think DAL wants it's competitors knowing what cities it's going to build up and take down? There was an article in the news today about competitors eyeing MSP build-ups if Delta were to decrease flying out of there...the same goes for all bases...DAL doesn't want AA and SWA and whoever else knowing where it's going to put what...b/c those companies could then jump the gun and start forumlating strategy around the new bases.

everyone is getting worked up over an obviously made up rumor. he started this thread after making that post in the pinnacle thread. i don't know if he is getting displaced, furloughed, or what. but he is blaming the pinnacle pilots because our management was able to secure a deal with delta. there is absolutly no truth to what was posted. there was no meeting. in one thread he post how his job sucks and pinnacle is ruining it, and in another he posts a supposed rumor about asa moving into a pinnacle base and taking their flying?? give me a break.

if thats what big daddy delta has in mind, what can i do about it? hate the pilots who are doing their jobs? or be mad at the guy who made the decision. please remember that if and when pinnacle moves in to fly traditional asa/skywest/comair routes.

Funny cause the rumor I have heard the most is that MEM will shrink drastically... maybe they want ASA to be isolated to a shrinking base and have 9E take over Atlanta...

wow. you are so anti pinnacle that you have to start a whole new thread that is total bs because someone wrote a good thread about pinnacle in ATL that was factual. amazing! that truly is the most amazingly immature flame bait i've ever seen on here. Hiding on an anonymous forum really makes you feel like a man, doesn't it?

hahahaha right! hmmm ASAs contract is to have 80% of all DCI traffic out of atlanta. Dream on man. I work for ASA and I have a few friends at 9E, I am glad to see you all not lose the contract out of ATL but don't start talking like that just because of one pilot talking trash.

Yea you are right, it makes about as much sense as the origional post doesn't it ;) BTW, I hope ASA does well, maybe I'll be seeing you guys up in MSP pretty soon. I just think its funny that he chose the NWA base that most people think has the best chance of going away to use for his pathetic rumor.

I'm willing to bet he was being sarcasic and just wanted to p*ss off a certain crybaby at your company, not that 9e's really gonna "take flying" from you guys :) That is one problem on here that guys don't understand tho, 1 bad asa apple giving all the guys a bad rap.

Agreed, some ppl are just that ignorant. There is always a bad apple in every bunch. But I see no point in us starting to attack one another. At the end of the day we all need a J.O.B. We are our worst enemies. Personally I can careless about how much flying we get. As long we have enough to keep me off the streets, I don't care. It is managements part to give a rats ass about growth. All we need to do is make our contract goals and move on.

You are probubly right Mooney but I just wanted to make sure. Don't need us hating on each other in ATL. I don't wanna see a 9E pilot and have tention.

"now can't we all just get along?" the words of Rodney King.

I'm sorry to hear you say something like this RJtrash. You usually have great points of view and insight. I'm sure here soon when we're wearing the same uniform there'll be alot of mixup of "tradition routes." If we all still have jobs post merger, the ultimately who cares. The routes belong to NW and Delta, and besides, Detroit sucks. Come on up if you want to!:p

Hey, since we're talking rumors, I heard from "someone" that post-merger, the new mainline scope has all 70 seat and above jets being flown at the mainline, and all regional pilots flying them merged DOH and then stapled to the bottom of the DAL/NWA list. Those flying anything less and TPs will be merged DOH into one huge DCI carrier.











Is it April yet?

I think my post may have been misinterpreted by Pinnacle drivers. If so, I apologize. What I was trying to convey (and obviously unsuccessfully, I might add) is that we will see if Pinnacle guys and gals will be saying the same things like blame management, not the pilots etc... if and when Comair and ASA metal shows up in MSP and DTW. I was not trying to flame anyone person or pilot group.

In my mind, I knew the context of my post, but it's quite difficult to convey what is actually meant often on these boards. A single comment can be taken several different ways and sometimes gets misinterpreted and taken out of context.

I am the last person that wants to see pilot groups up against each other. I have seen it constantly here in CVG with bad attitudes towards CHQ and Freedom pilots. They came in to CVG and MCO and were flying traditional Comair flying, of course on the decisions made by DL management, not the individual pilot groups and using their own metal. Now Pinnacle is in ATL, again because of DL management decisions and it is upsetting ASA guys. I was merely saying that if and when Comar and ASA metal shows up in DTW and MSP, to remember it's management and not the pilots.

Whenever you hear about more large regional jets be very suspicious. The new scope language limits the amount of LRJ's to 120. There are already more than 120 in the combined systems. As Delta puts on more aircraft above the to be established base number then 3 LRJ's for every mainline jet can appear. I just don't see those numbers of mainline jets increasing with the planned parking of some and delivery of others in the near future. The only other way is if someone who is now operating LRJ's is pushed out. Lets hope that that doesn't happen either as it could be your airline.

That's a good point, and besides it makes upper management's job easier if we get p!ssed off at eachother and not them.

Here is another Rumor. The 900's freed up from Mesa and several new deliveries will be operated by the mainline at Delta. There is already a payrate for the aircraft. Discussions are rumored to be taking place.

Good thats where they should be.