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gtechpilot 08-26-2008 11:19 AM

ASA's so called DCI contract
 
Anyone know where the details of this exist(for that matter, where to read any of the DCI carrier contracts)? I've heard too many rumors lately that no one can confirm. For example - they get 80% of DCI flying from ATL, performance #s aren't as strict, their ATL gates are owned by Delta, etc.

afterburn81 08-26-2008 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by gtechpilot (Post 450382)
Anyone know where the details of this exist(for that matter, where to read any of the DCI carrier contracts)? I've heard too many rumors lately that no one can confirm. For example - they get 80% of DCI flying from ATL, performance #s aren't as strict, their ATL gates are owned by Delta, etc.

Just curious as to why it matters?;)

gtechpilot 08-26-2008 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 450391)
Just curious as to why it matters?;)

Peace of mind! :D

flybywire44 08-26-2008 11:56 AM

As long as ASA maintains its #'s ASA is to do 80% of DCI flying out of ATL. This was per SH and DR in the Fall of '05 while ASA was in those extended contract negotiations.

However as all DCI flying has been reduced that 80% as shrunk!

rickair7777 08-26-2008 12:03 PM

I don't recall the details, but having a solid DCI contract was an obvious prerequisite for the SKW purchase of ASA. Jerry's no amateur, so there are not going to be any loopholes.

I would assume that ASA is contractually safe as long as the performance is good, and as long as Inc doesn't voluntary trade away ASA protections to DAL in exchange for something else (I can't think of any reason this would happen).

Justdoinmyjob 08-26-2008 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 450417)
I don't recall the details, but having a solid DCI contract was an obvious prerequisite for the SKW purchase of ASA. Jerry's no amateur, so there are not going to be any loopholes.

About the only contract that could be considered ironclad, with no loopholes, would be the one signed by El Diablo hisself. Although, being a Hellspawn or Ghost Rider might be a cool thing.

CRJDriver 08-26-2008 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by gtechpilot (Post 450382)
Anyone know where the details of this exist(for that matter, where to read any of the DCI carrier contracts)? I've heard too many rumors lately that no one can confirm. For example - they get 80% of DCI flying from ATL, performance #s aren't as strict, their ATL gates are owned by Delta, etc.

Yes,.... Delta is giving you all the CRJ900s from Freedom! No go spread the joy little boy!

JetJock16 08-26-2008 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 450435)
Yes,.... Delta is giving you all the CRJ900s from Freedom! No go spread the joy little boy!

This must be sarcasm? You are saying that DAL has made an announcement (proof) that SKW Inc. will get F8's DAL CR9's? I haven't heard a thing about it and seeing they are NE based I would firmly expect them to end up at Comair.

JetJock16 08-26-2008 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 450409)
As long as ASA maintains its #'s ASA is to do 80% of DCI flying out of ATL. This was per SH and DR in the Fall of '05 while ASA was in those extended contract negotiations.

However as all DCI flying has been reduced that 80% as shrunk!

Yes, people don't seem to understand this. If there are 1000 DCI departures in ATL then ASA must fly 800 per their contract. If that number shrinks to 900 then ASA can be shrunk to 720 departures, but no less than the contractual %age. If DAL does drop ASA below contractual mins then SKW gets to retain the last installment of the purchase price ($125M) due in Oct of 09.

SkyWest Airlines

We have the same contract for our SLC flying, but I thought it was 85%.

Now here’s a question for those who might know. Is ASA counted independently or does SKW departures in ATL count when it comes to that 80% (same Co.)? I can’t remember if the contract specifies ASA or SKW Inc., I know SKW Inc. said they plan on keeping the two operations separate but the contract is with Inc., not ASA. I'm not meaning anything buy it, I feel ATL should be ASA and SLC......SKW. And I even live in ATL (Roswell).

gtechpilot 08-26-2008 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 450435)
Yes,.... Delta is giving you all the CRJ900s from Freedom! No go spread the joy little boy!

....

Cute.


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