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mccube5 09-21-2008 01:57 PM

had a NWA CA deny a buddy a jumpseat cuz he wasnt clean shaven. and it was only day old scruff.

sailingfun 09-21-2008 02:00 PM

If that is NWA policy then he did the right thing. Your friend should have grabbed his razor and ducked into the lav and shaved. Captains have enough going on without having jumpseaters put them in a position where they can get in trouble for a violation of the companies FOM. When you show up asking for something you should error on the side of being conservative. Your dress and personal appearance should leave nothing to be questioned. Makes it easy and simple for everyone. Showing up any other way shows a lack of maturity.

Cycle Pilot 09-21-2008 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 465959)
If that is NWA policy then he did the right thing. Your friend should have grabbed his razor and ducked into the lav and shaved. Captains have enough going on without having jumpseaters put them in a position where they can get in trouble for a violation of the companies FOM. When you show up asking for something you should error on the side of being conservative. Your dress and personal appearance should leave nothing to be questioned. Makes it easy and simple for everyone. Showing up any other way shows a lack of maturity.

Very good post. Don't put the Captain in that position to begin with. It's unfair... especially when you're the one asking for a ride!

mccube5 09-21-2008 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 465959)
If that is NWA policy then he did the right thing. Your friend should have grabbed his razor and ducked into the lav and shaved. Captains have enough going on without having jumpseaters put them in a position where they can get in trouble for a violation of the companies FOM. When you show up asking for something you should error on the side of being conservative. Your dress and personal appearance should leave nothing to be questioned. Makes it easy and simple for everyone. Showing up any other way shows a lack of maturity.

im with ya buddy, and my friend that got denied didnt question it either. hes usually the most well put together guy out there, just ran short on time that morning. were professionals and part of that is leaving the house well put together.

ehaeckercfi 09-21-2008 02:13 PM

Jumpseating on FedEx is great. Collared shirt (not tucked in), jeans, and tennis shoes is perfectly acceptable. They do, however, require you to be clean shaven.

mooney 09-21-2008 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi (Post 465966)
Jumpseating on FedEx is great. Collared shirt (not tucked in), jeans, and tennis shoes is perfectly acceptable. They do, however, require you to be clean shaven.

careful....i know a guy that got lectured by a FDX captain and also got lectured by our ACP for doing just that...

EMBFlyer 09-21-2008 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 465986)
careful....i know a guy that got lectured by a FDX captain and also got lectured by our ACP for doing just that...

Not that I don't believe you, but I find that hard to believe. The one time I've ridden on FedEx thus far, I was going from ORD to MEM. There were 5 jumpseaters on the MD-10, 4 FedEx guys and myself. Of the 8 people on board the airplane, 3 of us were in uniform...myself and the working crew. The other guys were in polo shirts and jeans. Some even had sneakers on.

I plan on using FedEx quite a bit more as they are the easiest way for me to get from the paradise that is the West Coast to the Sewer. I plan on being in uniform as I will be reporting for work. I'll get the opinion from the crews I ride with. FedEx is awesome. You guys treat offline guys great. The ride (and subsequent rides) were much appreciated and I look forward to using you guys again. You're always welcome on XJT...anytime!

ehaeckercfi 09-21-2008 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 465986)
careful....i know a guy that got lectured by a FDX captain and also got lectured by our ACP for doing just that...

I'm just going by the dress code that is posted on the wall in the jumpseat lounge in MEM. Every crew I have ever jumped with is super cool about it.

PCLCREW 09-21-2008 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by SuperPilotJesse (Post 465696)
So yes I did a search but couldn't find what I was looking for, I also read the article on APC but it was a little... misleading?

So the article says "business casual when upfront"... or am I just wrong I was under the impression that it was BC anytime jumpseating.

But what my real question is, when JSing is it expected to be clean shaven, even if you are sure you will be sitting in the cabin? For instance hopefully I'll be in Thailand for about a week... do I need to take my razor with me for the flight back? Or is some growth okay?

I know this is stupid, but it's the things I think about.


Go luck jumpseating out of thailand also man... I would buy several ZED fare's on many airlines... the only 2 us airlines out of there are UAL and NWA and they are full alot.. both airlines have many online and offline people trying to NON-REV out of BKK and you will be last on the list... and if you dont catch the capt before he gets on the plane they wont let you on to ask him/her.
Just some adivse I have been there many times, and it can get rough leaving BKK.

frozenboxhauler 09-21-2008 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 465949)
If you are female, do you have to be COMPLETELY shaven?

I believe it is the captain's responsibility to verify this.

LMAO!
fbh


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