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Luv2Rotate 11-18-2008 12:36 PM

As long as you have 135 IFR mins you have a good shot. I've never heard of PW/GS furlough anyone. The pay isnt the best but its better than GLA and with EAS routes you should be home every night so thats a bonus.
Also look into "Wings Air" They fly chieftans out of ATL. Cheers!

friendlyskies 11-18-2008 06:39 PM

Where to apply? I can't find their website.

Luv2Rotate 11-18-2008 06:57 PM

I would assume the pacific wings website.

N6724G 11-18-2008 08:35 PM

Passed my checkride today. :D

friendlyskies 11-19-2008 06:31 AM

Congrats on passing your ride!

Anyone who works there, is there any way I can follow up with my resume/cover letter? I just sent in my stuff, but the website specifically says "no phone calls please." Usually I call whoever I'm applying with to make sure they recieved my application, but I don't want to call them when they say specifically not to.

N6724G 11-19-2008 12:51 PM

When I applied, i didnt talk to anyone. All communications were done through email. All the way up to the interview. it was strange to me too.

You are talking GA Skies arent you? I know nothing about Pacific Wings.

friendlyskies 11-19-2008 01:46 PM

Yeah I'm talking about GS. But you have to apply through pacific wings, so the email is @pacificwings.com. Weird. Ok, I guess I'll sit tight. Thanks

FSUpilot 11-19-2008 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by friendlyskies (Post 501676)
Congrats on passing your ride!

Anyone who works there, is there any way I can follow up with my resume/cover letter? I just sent in my stuff, but the website specifically says "no phone calls please." Usually I call whoever I'm applying with to make sure they recieved my application, but I don't want to call them when they say specifically not to.

no dont call. just wait and you will hear something. do exactly what they tell you to do and you will be fine. and just so you know when and if you interview, you will be interviewing for whatever positions are open; that means if there is something in new mexico, or hawaii you could be hired for there. Usually though you will get what you apply for.

FSUpilot 11-19-2008 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 501957)
When I applied, i didnt talk to anyone. All communications were done through email. All the way up to the interview. it was strange to me too.

You are talking GA Skies arent you? I know nothing about Pacific Wings.

If you work for Georgia Skies you know lots about pacific wings. You will find out soon that its all the same stuff only its operating in different states. They just call themselves Georgia Skies, or New Mexico Airlines.

N6724G 11-19-2008 03:50 PM

yes, its the same company justy called something else in a different location (wouldnt make sense to cal lan airline pacific wings in Georgia) The Chief Pilot trained us and is a good guy but they have him running crazy. He trains us, he is the Chief pilot and he shuttles planes back and forth from GA to New Mexico. We'll see what its like. Wish me luck.

FSUpilot 11-20-2008 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 502106)
yes, its the same company justy called something else in a different location (wouldnt make sense to cal lan airline pacific wings in Georgia) The Chief Pilot trained us and is a good guy but they have him running crazy. He trains us, he is the Chief pilot and he shuttles planes back and forth from GA to New Mexico. We'll see what its like. Wish me luck.

Yeah that would good old DJ... he is a machine, I could never do his job. Good luck! Its not hard, but make sure you study. He goes quick!

EDIT: Nevermind you passed already. Good luck with flying in and outta ATL.

HyPoXiKDeViL08 11-20-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 477865)
yeah you tell em!!:D

I like the support NM PIC's!!! we gotta stick together... the industry is rough!

Luv2Rotate 11-20-2008 04:00 PM

I hear its rougher at PW

Airway 11-20-2008 04:03 PM

$1,200 a month and someone has the cluelessness to say "not a bad place to work"?

And I thought I was a wh(O)re at a regional.

Don't encourage this kind of stuff. If they can't find pilots because their pay is atrocious, they'll have to raise their rates. If they can't raise them, they'll go out of business. And that's the way it should be.

Otherwise, they can polish my pole for $1,200/mo.

I'm with Pennekamp. We couldn't have left that dump of an overnight too soon. Stinks to lose flying but I could let that one go.

skatergeek 11-20-2008 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Airway (Post 502923)
$1,200 a month and someone has the cluelessness to say "not a bad place to work"?

And I thought I was a wh(O)re at a regional.

Don't encourage this kind of stuff. If they can't find pilots because their pay is atrocious, they'll have to raise their rates. If they can't raise them, they'll go out of business. And that's the way it should be.

Otherwise, they can polish my pole for $1,200/mo.

I'm with Pennekamp. We couldn't have left that dump of an overnight too soon. Stinks to lose flying but I could let that one go.

Most people who are going to PW/NMA/GS are going there to be PIC. Then, the pay ins't bad at all. 30k+ a year to fly bout 10 people, home everynight, sounds pretty good to me.

FSUpilot 11-20-2008 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Airway (Post 502923)
$1,200 a month and someone has the cluelessness to say "not a bad place to work"?

And I thought I was a wh(O)re at a regional.

Don't encourage this kind of stuff. If they can't find pilots because their pay is atrocious, they'll have to raise their rates. If they can't raise them, they'll go out of business. And that's the way it should be.

Otherwise, they can polish my pole for $1,200/mo.

I'm with Pennekamp. We couldn't have left that dump of an overnight too soon. Stinks to lose flying but I could let that one go.

I didn't say it was good place to work either... its a job... plus i'm an F/O on a single pilot airplane... how much pay do you expect??? Flying a 50 - 70 passenger jet for just a little more is the same thing or worse isnt it? We are all responsible in some way or another.

N6724G 11-20-2008 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by skatergeek (Post 502931)
Most people who are going to PW/NMA/GS are going there to be PIC. Then, the pay ins't bad at all. 30k+ a year to fly bout 10 people, home everynight, sounds pretty good to me.

Well, you're only home every night if you live in Athens. I may have to move there. Right now I drive 80 miles there and back a day. its not that bad but it wil get old after a while

friendlyskies 11-20-2008 05:37 PM

Any idea how long it takes from resume submission until one can expect a call/email ? Thanks

TRS531 11-20-2008 08:40 PM

Yeah I've applied twice in the last 2 months with nothing...I'd take it since I live in Atlanta...60 miles I could deal with...

Any more training classes going on right now?

John Pennekamp 11-21-2008 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 502976)
I didn't say it was good place to work either... its a job... plus i'm an F/O on a single pilot airplane... how much pay do you expect??? Flying a 50 - 70 passenger jet for just a little more is the same thing or worse isnt it? We are all responsible in some way or another.

For the record, I wasn't saying GA Skies was a dump (never worked there), I was saying Macon, GA is a dump. Spent WAY too much time there. I think Airway was echoing that thought.

N6724G 11-21-2008 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by friendlyskies (Post 503002)
Any idea how long it takes from resume submission until one can expect a call/email ? Thanks

I am sure they are hiring. They just started ops in September so they are trying tobuild their crews

willflyforcash 12-11-2008 03:09 PM

[quote=FSUpilot;502976]

Flying a 50 - 70 passenger jet for just a little more is the same thing or worse isnt it? /quote]

i made 30 my first year, 38 second year and hopefully 40 and change this year.... nothing close to 14,400.

EatSleepFly 12-11-2008 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 477860)
Furloughed XJT sir and pretty much took no pay cut in the transition. I will fly somewhere around 65 hours this month, and work 16 days (home every night). Per flight hour based on this month 2500/65 = $38.46 per hour you could say, but it will change month to month, its salary so it doesn't matter. So ill say this again, take a peak at a GLakes CA year 1 at $27 an hour and then compare. Also do it for a Mesa airlines second year FO on a jet, who is really lowering the bar?

Ok, so you're making around 30 grand a year flying single-engine, VMC, and at 10,000 feet? Yee haw. I'm not trying to start a flame war, but our 1st year Captains actually average around 34 grand a year and that's just the 75 hr guarantee + per diem. The ABQ Captains probably average 43 grand a year. Yeah the pay still sucks but I wouldn't exactly consider that "lowering the bar." Especially flying a 19 seat turboprop.


Fly Safe

cencal83406 12-11-2008 08:26 PM

Question:

Since you don't need a type for the caravan (under 12.5... though not sure about the turbine bit), if you are an SIC, when can you log PIC in the caravan? I read you go through the same training and check? Only on Pt 91 legs empty? 135 empty legs? Never?

SAMSON 12-12-2008 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 516855)
Question:

Since you don't need a type for the caravan (under 12.5... though not sure about the turbine bit), if you are an SIC, when can you log PIC in the caravan? I read you go through the same training and check? Only on Pt 91 legs empty? 135 empty legs? Never?

In the caravan as an SIC you can log PIC whenever you are the sole manipulator of the flight controls. That is because you don't need a type. So yes, you can log Turbine PIC when you have your hands on the controls.

Luv2Rotate 12-13-2008 08:28 AM

So your saying if your 300hr SIC for a 135 outfit and its your leg to fly with passengers you can log PIC??? That doesnt make sense because even VFR 135 captains have minimum requirements before they can even become PIC's let alone flying IFR. I would check with your Chief before logging PIC as an SIC with a 135 outfit.

Nothing will look worse in your logbook than logging a bunch of PIC time when 1.) Your 8410, 297 and 293 are for the SIC checkout and 2.) Your logging legs as PIC with passengers and not meeting the minimum requirements to be a PIC whether it be VFR 500tt or IFR 1200tt. Dont be foolish..

pilotman4u 02-01-2009 11:46 AM

I worked for PW in New Mexico and Georgia before being fired over a lie. Myself and 3 other pilots were fired for trying to let another pilot from another 121 airline get a jumpseat. We attempted to contact upper management about getting him some sort of jumpseat or discounted rate and were told absolutely NO. So we made the guy pay for a ticket and 2 days later we were fired for "trying to smuggle someone on board" which was completely an exaggeration. In my time with PW I witness about a dozen pilots fired in a 6 month period. Since then I know of 9 more being fired in the last 3 months. This is a complete crap company I beleive they do very shady operations and that they will fire anyone who they are threatened by who are usually the better and safer pilots, and keep the idiots who shouldn't be flying to begin with. And on a further note I wouldn't recommend management to run a lemonade stand. RUn away

TheBills 02-01-2009 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by pilotman4u (Post 549891)
I worked for PW in New Mexico and Georgia before being fired over a lie. Myself and 3 other pilots were fired for trying to let another pilot from another 121 airline get a jumpseat. We attempted to contact upper management about getting him some sort of jumpseat or discounted rate and were told absolutely NO. So we made the guy pay for a ticket and 2 days later we were fired for "trying to smuggle someone on board" which was completely an exaggeration. In my time with PW I witness about a dozen pilots fired in a 6 month period. Since then I know of 9 more being fired in the last 3 months. This is a complete crap company I beleive they do very shady operations and that they will fire anyone who they are threatened by who are usually the better and safer pilots, and keep the idiots who shouldn't be flying to begin with. And on a further note I wouldn't recommend management to run a lemonade stand. RUn away

Its sad but very true. seven fired yesterday for trying to form a union.

hi208 02-01-2009 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 549900)
Its sad but very true. seven fired yesterday for trying to form a union.

Thats sounds about right. PW is a horrible company. You should check the labor laws, I think this is illegal.

Desert Sky 02-01-2009 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 549900)
Its sad but very true. seven fired yesterday for trying to form a union.

It was TEN that were terminated without cause, as I was one of them.

P56C 02-01-2009 05:53 PM

You got terminated for trying to form a union? That's ridiculous.

Sorry to hear.

Jughead 02-01-2009 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by RPJ80 (Post 550042)
It was TEN that were terminated without cause, as I was one of them.

Ten people fired in one day?! How many pilots do they have working there?

Sorry to hear about this - good luck to you all.:mad:

name10135 02-01-2009 06:44 PM

Before 1/31/09, there were 38 Pilots employed by PW/NMA/GS.

getrichflytryin 02-02-2009 01:27 AM

Is there not some sort of labor protection against being fired for organizing? Even in an at will work state?

Even though I don't expect anything more or less from the shameless management of Pacific Wings.

Do not work here. No matter how badly you need the hours. They will use you and throw you away.


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