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N6724G 10-08-2008 08:41 AM

Georgia Skies
 
Does anyone have any current inoformation on this operation? I have read the previous threads about it but was wondering if there is any current news? Thank you.

TheBills 10-08-2008 08:49 AM

Georgia Skies is pacific wings (the hawaiian based company). They fly Caravans. They have plans on expanding. There hiring CA's and FO's. CA's start at 2500/mo and FO's start at 1200/mo. Its not a bad place to work right now.

Cubdriver 10-08-2008 09:50 AM

Whereis G/S based in Georgia? Depending on where it is you could fly their routes and flight instruct on the side at the same airport.

FSUpilot 10-08-2008 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 475674)
Whereis G/S based in Georgia? Depending on where it is you could fly their routes and flight instruct on the side at the same airport.

athens..flying in an out of athens, ATL, and macon

Cubdriver 10-08-2008 11:33 AM

Well then la ti da. Falcon Avaiation Academy was setting up shop in Athens last time I checked and Athens is one of the best towns to live in anywhere. What a good deal if you can get it.

TristarJS30 10-08-2008 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 475637)
CA's start at 2500/mo and FO's start at 1200/mo. Its not a bad place to work right now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Captain pay is 30k a year and FO pay is... 14,400 a year? Not exactly what I would call a great place to work...

Cubdriver 10-08-2008 12:46 PM

Geez man what do you want in a time builder job? You could make upwards of 50k with a little moxy and still be home most nights.

hi208 10-08-2008 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 475633)
Does anyone have any current inoformation on this operation? I have read the previous threads about it but was wondering if there is any current news? Thank you.

If you are a FO then it will suck if you are a captain then it will suck a little less but still suck. I use to work for them in Hawaii. But if thats your only option for work then I'd probably do it.

hi208 10-08-2008 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 475777)
Geez man what do you want in a time builder job? You could make upwards of 50k with a little moxy and still be home most nights.

You won't make any extra at Pac wings unless you break out the knee pads!

TheBills 10-08-2008 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by TristarJS30 (Post 475739)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Captain pay is 30k a year and FO pay is... 14,400 a year? Not exactly what I would call a great place to work...

Its a single pilot airplane, that explains the FO pay. They only have FO's because EAS requires a co-pilot. So if you have 135 mins you can be Captain. The flying outside of Hawaii seems to be much better, for example in NM we dont work longer than a 7 hour duty day and are home every night. Supposedly that is going to change next month. As a furloughed pilot it is a good place to be...trust me. You could put it this way too...I make more flying 9 people than Great Lakes CA's make, and my medicare is paid for by the company.

N6724G 10-08-2008 07:15 PM

Actually guys, I got a jobn offer, but they keep pushing the class date back. they have pushed it back three times and it is begining to worry me

TheBills 10-08-2008 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 475972)
Actually guys, I got a jobn offer, but they keep pushing the class date back. they have pushed it back three times and it is begining to worry me

dont worry you will get your class date, they were waiting on approval or something like that, in ATL and it took a little longer than expected.

N685EH 10-09-2008 03:57 AM

Anyone know what their hiring minimums are and how long / how many pilots they are planning on hiring?

TheBills 10-09-2008 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by N685EH (Post 476070)
Anyone know what their hiring minimums are and how long / how many pilots they are planning on hiring?

They always need pilots, 1200 hours for captain and as long as you have your commercial and can breathe you can be an FO.

FSUpilot 10-09-2008 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 475941)
Its a single pilot airplane, that explains the FO pay. They only have FO's because EAS requires a co-pilot. So if you have 135 mins you can be Captain. The flying outside of Hawaii seems to be much better, for example in NM we dont work longer than a 7 hour duty day and are home every night. Supposedly that is going to change next month. As a furloughed pilot it is a good place to be...trust me. You could put it this way too...I make more flying 9 people than Great Lakes CA's make, and my medicare is paid for by the company.

that is until we start going to el paso again :D

NightIP 10-09-2008 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 475972)
Actually guys, I got a jobn offer, but they keep pushing the class date back. they have pushed it back three times and it is begining to worry me

So is Georgia Skies not flying yet?

N6724G 10-10-2008 06:12 AM

No, Idont believe they are. Like I asid, I am just asking about GA Skies. I am NOT asking about Pacific wings or NM Airlines

FSUpilot 10-10-2008 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 476720)
No, Idont believe they are. Like I asid, I am just asking about GA Skies. I am NOT asking about Pacific wings or NM Airlines

dude they are all the same airline... with an attitude like that nobody is gonna offer up any info.

and yes GS is flying!

Mason32 10-10-2008 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 475637)
Georgia CA's start at 2500/mo and FO's start at 1200/mo. Its not a bad place to work right now.

Those pay rates and it's not a bad place to work? You can make more delivering pizza and not have to worry about medicals, PC's, schedules, weather or enforcement actions.

Go ahead and lower the bar some more, but you would never catch me or anybody else that I know flying aircraft for those wages.

skywatch 10-10-2008 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 476887)
Those pay rates and it's not a bad place to work? You can make more delivering pizza and not have to worry about medicals, PC's, schedules, weather or enforcement actions.

Go ahead and lower the bar some more, but you would never catch me or anybody else that I know flying aircraft for those wages.

Hilarious. Wondered how long it would take to get to the "lowering the bar" post...:rolleyes:

Wildflyin 10-10-2008 01:25 PM

Seriously...somehow this thread must've been flying under the "high and mighty radar" for a bit. Something tells me he's not an out of work pilot....

N6724G 10-10-2008 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 476806)
dude they are all the same airline... with an attitude like that nobody is gonna offer up any info.

and yes GS is flying!

There was no "attitude meant in my post sir. I was merely pointing out that I aminterested in GA SKies. PW and NM Airlines are owned by the same people but they are different companies. Sorry if youtook it the wrong way.

N6724G 10-10-2008 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Wildflyin (Post 476924)
Seriously...somehow this thread must've been flying under the "high and mighty radar" for a bit. Something tells me he's not an out of work pilot....


I am not an out of work pilot. never said I was.i am a newbie to the industry.

Wildflyin 10-10-2008 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 477054)
I am not an out of work pilot. never said I was.i am a newbie to the industry.

didn't mean you..was referring to the "lowering the bar" coment left by Mason32. I probably should have quoted...

Cubdriver 10-10-2008 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 476887)
Those pay rates and it's not a bad place to work? You can make more delivering pizza and not have to worry about medicals, PC's, schedules, weather or enforcement actions.

Go ahead and lower the bar some more, but you would never catch me or anybody else that I know flying aircraft for those wages.

An entry level job is going to pay weak rates in any industry. That's a simple truth of market job economies. However, if you were to cheerfully take this job as a stepping stone to something better one could build experience while making use of the active flight instruction markets existing in Athens, Atlanta and Macon. Quality of life happens to be excellent in all these places as well. Capiche?

N6724G 10-10-2008 07:50 PM

You are right. I am an active flighgt instructor in the Atlanta area and that and the National guard is whats been keeping me fed while I wait for a class date

fxn2fly 10-11-2008 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 475633)
Does anyone have any current inoformation on this operation? I have read the previous threads about it but was wondering if there is any current news? Thank you.

Search Pacific wings - flightinfo regional and 135 forums. Everything you need to know and more. I recommend a leather chew toy while reading. Helps me anyway..:eek:

TheBills 10-11-2008 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 476887)
Those pay rates and it's not a bad place to work? You can make more delivering pizza and not have to worry about medicals, PC's, schedules, weather or enforcement actions.

Go ahead and lower the bar some more, but you would never catch me or anybody else that I know flying aircraft for those wages.

You sir are confused. I am flying a caravan for more money than I made at the regional I am currently furloughed from. Not only that they pay for my medicare, which is an extra 200 a month that I dont have to pay. I can think of quite a few regionals that aren't even close to that. All I can think is you are comparing Pacific Wings FO pay to Regional FO pay, which you can't because the airplane does not require an FO. So why would the company pay an FO 50,000 a year for a single pilot airplane? Pizza delivery guys make 8 bucks an hour, which the only pay you could compare that to is Lakes and Mesa. Trust me it is not a bad place to be right now, There are a lot of pilots looking for any kind of flying with no luck. No Captain at Pacific Wings is lowering the bar for anybody, for that you must look to Mesa, Lakes, etc.

friendlyskies 10-11-2008 12:52 PM

The Bills, you work for pacific wings, PIC in the Caravan? Just clarifying. This thread is confusing.

TRS531 10-11-2008 09:08 PM

And the regulations in which this operation is flying in Georgia requires an FO, therefore the SIC time can be logged despite it being a single pilot airplane?

135 SIC checkride provided in the training process?

TheBills 10-12-2008 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by friendlyskies (Post 477423)
The Bills, you work for pacific wings, PIC in the Caravan? Just clarifying. This thread is confusing.

Thats correct.

ImEbee 10-12-2008 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 477360)
You sir are confused. I am flying a caravan for more money than I made at the regional I am currently furloughed from. Not only that they pay for my medicare, which is an extra 200 a month that I dont have to pay. I can think of quite a few regionals that aren't even close to that. All I can think is you are comparing Pacific Wings FO pay to Regional FO pay, which you can't because the airplane does not require an FO. So why would the company pay an FO 50,000 a year for a single pilot airplane? Pizza delivery guys make 8 bucks an hour, which the only pay you could compare that to is Lakes and Mesa. Trust me it is not a bad place to be right now, There are a lot of pilots looking for any kind of flying with no luck. No Captain at Pacific Wings is lowering the bar for anybody, for that you must look to Mesa, Lakes, etc.

I might be willing to hear lowering the bar statements from those who work at XJT or Eagle, but from a single engine driver who tosses bags and plays reservation agent? I don't think you're in any position to make those statements. Last time I checked my training didn't cover safe lifting techniques. Out of curiosity, since finding posted pay rates is difficult, how much does a 1st year FO and CA make per flight hour?

TheBills 10-12-2008 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by ImEbee (Post 477830)
I might be willing to hear lowering the bar statements from those who work at XJT or Eagle, but from a single engine driver who tosses bags and plays reservation agent? I don't think you're in any position to make those statements. Last time I checked my training didn't cover safe lifting techniques. Out of curiosity, since finding posted pay rates is difficult, how much does a 1st year FO and CA make per flight hour?

Furloughed XJT sir and pretty much took no pay cut in the transition. I will fly somewhere around 65 hours this month, and work 16 days (home every night). Per flight hour based on this month 2500/65 = $38.46 per hour you could say, but it will change month to month, its salary so it doesn't matter. So ill say this again, take a peak at a GLakes CA year 1 at $27 an hour and then compare. Also do it for a Mesa airlines second year FO on a jet, who is really lowering the bar?

FSUpilot 10-12-2008 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 477860)
Furloughed XJT sir and pretty much took no pay cut in the transition. I will fly somewhere around 65 hours this month, and work 16 days (home every night). Per flight hour based on this month 2500/65 = $38.46 per hour you could say, but it will change month to month, its salary so it doesn't matter. So ill say this again, take a peak at a GLakes CA year 1 at $27 an hour and then compare. Also do it for a Mesa airlines second year FO on a jet, who is really lowering the bar?

yeah you tell em!!:D

FSUpilot 10-12-2008 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by ImEbee (Post 477830)
I might be willing to hear lowering the bar statements from those who work at XJT or Eagle, but from a single engine driver who tosses bags and plays reservation agent? I don't think you're in any position to make those statements. Last time I checked my training didn't cover safe lifting techniques. Out of curiosity, since finding posted pay rates is difficult, how much does a 1st year FO and CA make per flight hour?

oh yeah... who do you work for that makes you so high and mighty??

ANY flying job in todays market is a good job.

TheBills 10-12-2008 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by FSUpilot (Post 477866)
oh yeah... who do you work for that makes you so high and mighty??

ANY flying job in this todays market is a good job.

This was my only point really, I really enjoyed XJT and will probably go back when I can, or if I can I should say. Im pretty thankful im at Pacific Wings, as any furloughed pilot should be that landed a flying job.

Hulaboy 10-22-2008 11:43 AM

Keep in mind
 
And last but not least, keep in mind that this is an airplane that has one engine, the gear doesn't move, and the job does not require an ATP. In Hawaii, it is 95% VFR, daytime flying, and home every night. How much could it possibly pay? The only Caravan jobs that pay more are with Corporate Air and some of the other Fed ex feeders. They pay $2800 plus some COLA depending on where you get based. Casper Wyoming is available right now!

John Pennekamp 10-23-2008 06:03 AM

So how's the MCN run going now? You guys are "Tsunami" on the radio right?

Heard one of your guys getting chewed out by ATL approach the other day because they ignored the MCN tower assigned heading of 310 and just joined V323 to HUSKY. Then the pilot argued with approach! He seemed to not understand the difference between "cleared via V323 to HUSKY, Sinca 5" and a tower assigned heading to enter controlled airspace. He seemed convinced that his initial clearance was overriding.

Anyhow, glad we dumped that dump. Have fun in good 'ol Maconga.

DAK1 11-18-2008 11:43 AM

Getting back to the original post, can anyone provide some current info on Georgia Skies/ Pacific Wings? Specific to Georgia operations?

Fleet size?
Number of Pilots?
Hiring?
Furloughs?
QOL?

Thanks.

1300 TT, 550 C208B, 50 Amphib C208.

Riverside 11-18-2008 11:52 AM

Do a search, that might help you


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