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Old 10-12-2008 | 03:37 AM
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I am done. You can have your poverty wages and Alpa stickers that lead to... NOTHING!!! I am under the influence of beer, but nevertheless you can have it all. I am done chasing the carrot and sacrificing my life to this cr@p industry. I want a family and I just can't picture myself saying: "Billy you can't go to college because daddy likes to fly and infact he likes it so much that he does it for free" I am trying my luck overseas..I will give it one more shot. Rant over...
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Old 10-12-2008 | 04:00 AM
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Rascal,If you decide to go the foreign flag carrier rte try contacting them directly .
I would try the Asian carriers first.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
I am done chasing the carrot and sacrificing my life to this cr@p industry. I want a family and I just can't picture myself saying: "Billy you can't go to college because daddy likes to fly and infact he likes it so much that he does it for free"
No offense there Bra, but did you actually research the industry you were getting into, or did you just think that being a pilot was cool and something you wanted to do? The regional industry today is no different than when I started in 1995. I suggest that you due some due diligence of the foreign market too. It's not all like the stories you hear.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 06:14 AM
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Why couldn't your kids go to college? Have you ever heard of an Education IRA or a 529 Plan? Tax-free way to save money for your kids school. Yes the market is horrible right now but these are long-term plans so there is plenty of time to make your gains.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
No offense there Bra, but did you actually research the industry you were getting into, or did you just think that being a pilot was cool and something you wanted to do? The regional industry today is no different than when I started in 1995. I suggest that you due some due diligence of the foreign market too. It's not all like the stories you hear.
No different than it was in 1995? Are you kidding?
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Old 10-12-2008 | 06:35 AM
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No different than it was in 1995? Are you kidding?
Nope, back then regional managements were nickel and diming their employees, dangling carrots to get contract concessions, taking 5+ years to negotiate contracts, undercutting each other on contracted flying, and in the ultimate "free" flying, requiring PFT. How is that any better than what is going on now? Or do you think that the regional industry prior to 2002-2006 was like that time period?
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Old 10-12-2008 | 06:37 AM
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Education about the history of the industry you work in - the Anti-Drug.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 07:14 AM
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JDMJ's evidently not speaking of the big picture. The regional industry, and more importantly the industry as a whole, is hugely different now. The rapid movement and eventual brass rings for those who paid a few dues are largely a thing of the past. Yeah, mgmt will always try to nickel and dime, that song remains the same. That's their job after all; but the career path and resultant wealth accumulation of the typical pilot (not all, mind you) has taken a dramatic turn for the worse.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
I am done. You can have your poverty wages and Alpa stickers that lead to... NOTHING!!! I am under the influence of beer, but nevertheless you can have it all. I am done chasing the carrot and sacrificing my life to this cr@p industry. I want a family and I just can't picture myself saying: "Billy you can't go to college because daddy likes to fly and infact he likes it so much that he does it for free" I am trying my luck overseas..I will give it one more shot. Rant over...
Seriously bro ... did you actually know that this was aviation you were getting into ... the most volatile industry in the world, arguably?! There's not a whole lot of pretty things about this place. You do the job because you have a passion and love for flying, and couldn't bare to sit in an Office 9-5 M-F. Yeah, the industry sucks right now, maybe more so than it has in a long time ... but cycles happen, the down periods come and go. I wish you the best of luck with the international aspect of things, and hope things go well for you. As it's been said to me several times before, "the grass always seems greener on the other side".
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Old 10-12-2008 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
I am done. You can have your poverty wages and Alpa stickers that lead to... NOTHING!!! I am under the influence of beer, but nevertheless you can have it all. I am done chasing the carrot and sacrificing my life to this cr@p industry. I want a family and I just can't picture myself saying: "Billy you can't go to college because daddy likes to fly and infact he likes it so much that he does it for free" I am trying my luck overseas..I will give it one more shot. Rant over...
BYE. Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya. NEXT!

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