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My question is... why is service limited to HNL, LIH, and KOA? Strange.

what does this mean for go! if they are losing their code share

I think it means GO! is getting flushed.

In all seriousness, you're doing us a favor. Our financial situation is dire to say the least, and we can't afford to throw away money out there any longer.

Many of us have been hoping Go! would end for a while now.

Has Go! ever posted a profit? Any real idea why JO went there in the first place? Jet fuel can't be cheap in Hawai'i and why use 50 seats with so many bigger planes lying around?

I think we made some money out there in the beginning but its been a long time since we've made a penny.

None of us can understand why JO insists on staying in HI, but there's not a person on God's green earth that can decifer his psyche.

is the plan for Mokulele to eventually purchase the e170s from Republic? Does this contract guarantee a profit for Republic (fuel and per flight)? Regardless congrats Republic pilots enjoy the sun.

Press Release from RAH

My guess is that this is a test as to whether a stand-alone 170 based airline can make money (similar to FlyI and xjet)... we'll see...

GO's planes were usually less than half full.. so I don't see how adding seat capacity is going to help. Most people are willing to pay the extra $20-40 to fly on Hawaiian. (Every single time I've flown HNL-ITO I've had to take the JS)

Well GO! was competing against Aloha who had been there for a good while. GO! ran Aloha under which was a much stronger airline than GO! is now. They should be easy for RAH to topple then take the routes Aloha flew. That's just a guess.

I said before this is a cheap way to go branded without going branded, if that makes any sense. I don't know what BB has in mind.

Ok, it seems they are starting with HNL, KOA, and LIH... adding ITO and OGG next year.

This is Boyer's way of thanking Ornstein for taking out Aloha Airlines while he rode on the coattails of go! What a class act!

It's a doggy-dog world.

You mean: dog eat dog world, right?

Or in this case, corrupt ceo vs corrupt ceo world.

Congrats to the Republic pilots though, at least they are paid more than Mesa pilots.

I don't think he's done anything to be a corrupt CEO just yet. He seems to be a business man. 4 jets flying for them would be nice though.

This is Boyer's way of thanking Ornstein for taking out Aloha Airlines while he rode on the coattails of go! What a class act!

It's a doggy-dog world.[/quote]

First off Ornstein is getting a taste of his own medicine. Second, if Mesa decided to pull out of Hawaii it would've left Mokulele hanging... Mr Boyer is just looking out for his investment.
When Mr Boyer bought Mokulele it was nothing more than a tour company with barely running chieftans.... Now 3yrs later he has a fleet of 208's multiple airline partners and now ERJ 170's. If thats not ambitious please tell me what is.... Oh, and Mokulele pay's their employees alot more than Mesa does... I guess thats why Mesa employees are applying to work for Mokulele. :D

BB's up to something. That's for sure! Here's a sample pairing:

November 2008 HI 170 Pairings
TRIP F7807 FIRST REPORT: 0619 LOCAL LAST RELEASE: 1934 LOCAL MO TU WE TH FR SA SU
CREW = 1CA 1FO 2FA -- --
DAY FLT# EQP DEP LCL ARR LCL BLOCK CKT/LO BLK DUTY DHD DRIG MIN TRIG SYN CRED -- -- -- -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
SU 209 EM7 HNL 0719 LIH 0756 0.37 0.24 -- -- -- -- -- -- 23
SU 214* EM7 LIH 0820 HNL 0849 0.29 1.57 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
SU 891 EM7 HNL 1046 LIH 1123 0.37 0.22
SU 228* EM7 LIH 1145 HNL 1214 0.29 3.15
SU 894 EM7 HNL 1529 KOA 1612 0.43 0.23
SU 895 EM7 KOA 1635 HNL 1715 0.40 0.30
SU 895 EM7 HNL 1745 LIH 1822 0.37 0.28
SU 256 EM7 LIH 1850 HNL 1919 0.29 4.41 13.15 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.41
CREDIT 4.41 BLOCK 4.41 SYN 0.00 LDGS. 8 TAFB 13.15

Na man, he's right Doggy Dogg world - Snoop Dogg 1994 Doggystyle. One of the BEST RAP ALBUMS EVER!

Is there a duty rig that makes the credit more than block?

You'd be whooped at the end of that day!

First off Ornstein is getting a taste of his own medicine. Second, if Mesa decided to pull out of Hawaii it would've left Mokulele hanging... Mr Boyer is just looking out for his investment.
When Mr Boyer bought Mokulele it was nothing more than a tour company with barely running chieftans.... Now 3yrs later he has a fleet of 208's multiple airline partners and now ERJ 170's. If thats not ambitious please tell me what is.... Oh, and Mokulele pay's their employees alot more than Mesa does... I guess thats why Mesa employees are applying to work for Mokulele. :D[/quote]

wow sounds like someone has a crush on someone else! Since when did you start call him Mr Boyer?

What does a first officer make at Mokulele?

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Classy. Worst of luck to you as well.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! ROFL!!!!!!

Hard to believe it's true, but very funny!

someone asked about the fo pay at mokulele. please correct me if im wrong, but doesn't the fo pay the company to fly in the right seat? it might be pac wings...not sure.

Nah, when I was there they were making like 19,000/yr. I think that has been changed now though to something like 21,000/yr. I not sure though

First off Ornstein is getting a taste of his own medicine. Second, if Mesa decided to pull out of Hawaii it would've left Mokulele hanging... Mr Boyer is just looking out for his investment.
When Mr Boyer bought Mokulele it was nothing more than a tour company with barely running chieftans.... Now 3yrs later he has a fleet of 208's multiple airline partners and now ERJ 170's. If thats not ambitious please tell me what is.... Oh, and Mokulele pay's their employees alot more than Mesa does... I guess thats why Mesa employees are applying to work for Mokulele. :D[/quote]

They pay more than MESA?...realy...lets hear about all the wonderful pay and benifits.

They pay more than MESA?...realy...lets hear about all the wonderful pay and benifits.[/quote]

Its classified.

does this mean anything at all for the furloughees at RAH?

I think that answered the question.

Tough talk from someone who "just finished his flight ratings" on 10/2/2008.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fl...tml#post472686

I suggest you become a part of this industry before you begin wishing ill on others, as well as talk down to people who have accomplished much more than you have professionally.

He is actually a pilot at mokulele. (well I use the word "pilot" very loosely) He is one of those that wears his uniform everywhere and lets everyone know he is a pilot even if they didn't ask, and about everything out of his month is a lie.

So he's a 400 hour F/O on a Caravan? And a "uniform" guy?

Now I understand where his ego comes from.

No offense but it depends on what you mean by "professionally". I made more as a CFI than you probably do as a captain there. I definitely made more than I do as an FO. I don't know where working at the worst regional for the worst pay and work rules measures on the professional scale. Give the guy a break. I haven't seen him talk down to anyone. I have seen you talk down to him though as your last few posts point out.

"So he's a 400 hour F/O on a Caravan?" So which one here has the ego?

Nothing yet. However you might as well consider these 11 crews gone. Not like they'll be able to call you for a RSV assignment in ATL. Something tells me they'll try though :)

To be perfectly honest, I'm not ready to go back. Spending the holidays at home sounds much better than preflighting ankle-deep in type 2 at YEG in stupid cold weather. I'll come back in March thankyou :)

Too bad people actually bid to go to HNL. Now the company has no reason to offer more.

Our friend has gone back through and edited his post that set me off. He did talk down to us at Mesa, while sitting at his PC with 400 hours and a wet commercial.

Sure, we've all been there, but I didn't run my mouth on these boards.

All along, he's making 19K flying a Caravan, and taking cheap shots at Mesa pilots.

Did you push 65K flight instructing?

Yes I did.

You shouldn't have left that gig. That's amazing!

I didn't have a choice. My contract was ending. The Air Force wanted someone to flight instruct in the desert. It was hot as hell in the summer but I was my own boss and the AF had all the students any three people could want. I did five flights a day in two hour blocks. Sometimes six. 1300hrs in a year of flight instruction was enough. No advancement if I renewed. Just same old racetrack day in and day out.

So are you're measuring professionalism based on income.....thank goodness the industry is not ran by 1st year f/o's!