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TurboDog 10-23-2008 05:57 PM

Reduced Rest Schedules
 
I am just curious to hear which airlines regularly build schedules with reduced rest overnights. According to the POI for Comair reduced rest was suppose to be an exception to the rule, not a basic operating principle. Comair and ALPA have allowed 6+ reduced rest overnights to be scheduled in a month. Wasn't reduced rest designed to help keep the integrity of a schedule when flights are delayed due to Wx and MTC? If so, why is nothing being done about it?

BobSakamano 10-23-2008 06:08 PM

Scheduled reduced rest is just another thing to love about Shrinkair...skirting gray area of the letter of the law while completely ignoring the spirit of the law.

CRJPlt 10-23-2008 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by BobSakamano (Post 484491)
Scheduled reduced rest is just another thing to love about Shrinkair...skirting gray area of the letter of the law while completely ignoring the spirit of the law.

C'mon lets be realistic, thats EVERY airline...

BobSakamano 10-23-2008 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by CRJPlt (Post 484493)
C'mon lets be realistic, thats EVERY airline...

Every REGIONAL airline, you mean.

I believe the OP's subject was Comair and there are a few of us that might be a little bitter.

Boomer 10-23-2008 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 484485)
Comair and ALPA have allowed 6+ reduced rest overnights to be scheduled in a month.

Last month I had three reduced rests in 6 days. Two were scheduled and one was predicted (Departing late out of JFK? That would never happen...)

Nobody died so I don't see what's the big deal. :D (Sarcasm Face)

BobSakamano 10-23-2008 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 484522)
Nobody died so I don't see what's the big deal. :D (Sarcasm Face)

I think that's the FAA's current stance ;)

CRJPlt 10-23-2008 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by BobSakamano (Post 484506)
Every REGIONAL airline, you mean.

I believe the OP's subject was Comair and there are a few of us that might be a little bitter.


No even some majors. One guy once said the words "Same crap, different airline." Maybe not to the extent of the Regionals but its all relative....

Mason32 10-23-2008 07:03 PM

They can schedule whatever they want. I have never had less than 8 hours behind the door (except when I was very new and didn't know any better). If the kickoffs get delayed enough they eventually get the message that the pilot group will not fly fatigued with inadequate rest, and alter schedules accordingly. They only schedule reduced rest because they get away with it. The FAR's are specific about flying fatigued, you do what you need to in order to be legal and safe.

EmbraerFlyer 10-24-2008 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 484485)
I am just curious to hear which airlines regularly build schedules with reduced rest overnights. According to the POI for Comair reduced rest was suppose to be an exception to the rule, not a basic operating principle. Comair and ALPA have allowed 6+ reduced rest overnights to be scheduled in a month. Wasn't reduced rest designed to help keep the integrity of a schedule when flights are delayed due to Wx and MTC? If so, why is nothing being done about it?

Horizon had reduce rest schedules when i was there, im sure they still have them. Reduce rest in GEG, BTM, and YYJ are a few that i remember being reduce rest.

Windsor 10-24-2008 07:02 AM

Pinnacle's bread and butter is pushing the pilot group with multiple reduced rest overnights. A signifigant part of our trips are RR.


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