About what is the max amount of days people actually will see on RR in a month? Also, if you are so lucky to be on RR, how often are you used?

 

RR's can do a max of 3 rr days in a single reserve stretch, with 10 a month max.

 

Cus were looking at 10 years till captain. And I am on the bottom of seniority as it is.

 

you can sit ready reserve TEN times in a month??!! you have eight hour ready reserves??!! ugh! i thought the reserve rules when i was at comair were bad! those are horrible work rules! that needs to be changed asap! i can not believe that people put up with that. i thought mesaba had better work rules than that. i guess i was wrong.

 

now that i read the thread on mesaba pay scales i know why mesaba is the only regional being distributed new a/c. with a pay scale that low and 65 percent of the work force with a year or less in a jet the management (delta) is raking in the dough! richard a. is loving you guys for giving him a nice bonus check this year with all the free labor he is getting.

 

First off 8 hours isn't that bad, especially the AM shift you just sleep half of it. Second off if you think being able to sit 10 days is bad, better not look at pinnacles, because they don't have a limit on number of days of RR, and I believe they are also there for more than 8 hours.

Since my previous posts were deleted:

Vulgarity Removed:

Listen here... this has been thurougly discussed earlier. Mesaba's pay rates used to be a lot better. We took alot of big cuts on pay during bankruptcy... because we were forced to by a judge. Also ALPA, at the time managed to negotiate snap back provisions, we get a 1% snap back this coming december and another 2.5% next December. At which point our rates will be as good or better than others. So clearly in a year that "advantage" for delta you're talking about no longer exists.

Now, I will not deny that we provide a cheap work group, but that has to do with the fact that about half of our pilot group was hired within the last year. This is also bankruptcy related, a lot of the guys that would have a lot more seniority than we do now went elsewhere when we furloughed during bankruptcy.

Once again, Vulgarity Removed:
Yeah... the RR is not our brightest spot but we do have a lot of good work rules. IE Actual Block or better, time and a half for picking up open time (or being junior manned) that goes on top of guarantee(mesaba and ALPA are in talks to raise this to 2x regular pay as an incentive to pick up time), we have the 14 hour rule, and quite a few others. I suggest that it is not proper manners to bash another airline in this manner.

 

i wouldnt waste your time getting me fired up about pinnacle and their work rules/pay. i know its bad! i just thought mesaba was better than it actually is. i was dumbfounded to read how horrific your work rules and pay are. obviously your stuck with what you have...i just hope you know how bad it really is.

 

thanks for the kind word of praise but the fact is i was referring to your pay "after" the snapback you so quickly jump too. 34/hour for an fo on a jet is pretty poor at 3rd year. i guess you will now say that "its ok cause i will upgrade in a year or two". well your captain pay was not looking too hot either. i'm not knocking you for accepting what you got. i would never do it...but we are all different. i just always thought mesaba was on par and not a bunker and water foul away. to give you an idea fo pay at comair was around 45 hour for three year fo on the 70/90 at the same pay scale you are referring to (time-line wise) eight year fo pay? try around 52/hour. does that give you some perspective as to what i am accustomed to? so when i look at your pay and say WOW! maybe now you know why.

 

Sorry... after all that I almost forgot to answer the real question at hand.


You can not be used in the first hour. That is you can not be on a flight where the posted departure time is before an hour after your report time. So, if your RR shift starts at 5AM and they're having you deadhead the flight departure time can't be until 6AM if they're having you fly, you have the right not to close the door until 6AM. After that its fair game for be at the gate ASAP. It has been my experience that they will still give you an hour to hour and a half notice. They will usually give you the flights that are just under the time required to call a regular reserve in. For example for a home reserve there is a 1.5 hour call out plus 30 minutes for charts/crew room plus 30 minutes to preflight/shut the door(2.5h total.) So if someone calls in sick and is already on a trip for example, and his next turn departs in an hour and a half, they'll have a RR fly the next turn and by the time that trip returns to base they'll have a home reserve there to pick up the rest of the trip.

 

my friend (as my boy mccain would say) i could care less about bashing YOUR job. just like i could care less about bashing the guy driving the truck on the interstate or the guy that picks up my recycables every wednesday morning. i was just completely taken back by what i thought was a good work environment at mesaba. the work rules you talk about with 14 hour days and 1.5 pay for extra flying are pretty standard at any airline so i wouldnt consider that a big bonus. obviously you like where you are so good for you. its obvious with how defensive you got the minute someone said, "there is no way i would work for that". i wish you plenty of success. once again.... thanks for the advice on what i should do with my spare time.