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TheDashRocks 12-12-2008 03:25 AM

Who is the Real Bottom Feeder?
 
A recent post in another thread was especially angry. It suggested that Mesa pilots are single-handedly dragging down all pilots and should resign. I did a comparison of the Mesa and American Eagle pay scales to see what the cumulative earning would be of a pilot spending ten years at each company. I assumed an 8 year upgrade at AE, and a three year upgrade at Mesa. I used only jet pay scales.

Total Ten Year Earnings: AE $435,000 Mesa $561,000

The Dash Whisperer

TristarJS30 12-12-2008 03:39 AM

QOL and work rules are just as important as pay. Whats the extra money if you have only 8 days off a month to use it?

UnlimitedAkro 12-12-2008 04:01 AM

Wow. It's pretty sad that a Mesa captain doesnt get paid much more than a FO at American Eagle over the same period of time, especially with all that abuse the Mesa pilot receives. You just made Mesa sound even more like a bottom feeder to me.

Purpleanga 12-12-2008 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by TheDashRocks (Post 516902)
A recent post in another thread was especially angry. It suggested that Mesa pilots are single-handedly dragging down all pilots and should resign. I did a comparison of the Mesa and American Eagle pay scales to see what the cumulative earning would be of a pilot spending ten years at each company. I assumed an 8 year upgrade at AE, and a three year upgrade at Mesa. I used only jet pay scales.

Total Ten Year Earnings: AE $435,000 Mesa $561,000

The Dash Whisperer

With all due respect you didn't do any of us a favor either. Especially when there was no improvement in pay, in fact an overall loss. Not that it's much anyways. I think mesa pilots should put this behind them and not even talk about it because it's just going to make others angry and try to focus on trying to get some real results next time. JO I heard promised something better in 2010 right? Good luck.:rolleyes:

flyvne1971 12-12-2008 05:44 AM

Oh boy! this is going to fun and new....Who can we bash next? ;)

BoilerUP 12-12-2008 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 516910)
With all due respect you didn't do any of us a favor either. Especially when there was no improvement in pay, in fact an overall loss.

You keep saying that, on multiple boards...

Do you not comprehend how improved work rules will raise the compensation of Mesa pilots via "soft pay"?

flycrj200 12-12-2008 07:06 AM

Mesa by far is the Bottom Feeder of this industry. It's in JO's blood. Enjoy your new contract that the company will never follow.

mking84 12-12-2008 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by TheDashRocks (Post 516902)
A recent post in another thread was especially angry. It suggested that Mesa pilots are single-handedly dragging down all pilots and should resign. I did a comparison of the Mesa and American Eagle pay scales to see what the cumulative earning would be of a pilot spending ten years at each company. I assumed an 8 year upgrade at AE, and a three year upgrade at Mesa. I used only jet pay scales.

Total Ten Year Earnings: AE $435,000 Mesa $561,000

The Dash Whisperer

Im confused with the 3 year upgrade. Heres how I compare the future 10 year earnings.

AE: $435,000 Mesa:$0

You cant get paid when your company is ran into the groud.

AKfreighter 12-12-2008 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro (Post 516909)
Wow. It's pretty sad that a Mesa captain doesnt get paid much more than a FO at American Eagle over the same period of time, especially with all that abuse the Mesa pilot receives. You just made Mesa sound even more like a bottom feeder to me.

Yeah, I agree. To me, anyone who willingly goes to work for a company that blatantly abuses pilots (or is largely considered to be the worst) is a bottom feeder, or working for a "bottom feeder". That being said, some people who work for mesa started there without the relavant info. That only makes them ignorant. Course there isn't much of an excuse for continuing to work there. Not trying to bash anyone. Now isn't the time to be trying to find a new job. But it really sucks to perpetuate the problem.

Ski Patrol 12-12-2008 07:40 AM

I don't care who a guy works for it's really quite childish all the bottom feeder this and bottom feeder that on these forums. What other industries are like this? Ofttimes as pilots we act like a bunch of hyena's fighting over scraps that the lions left behind seriously wake up people. Until everyone is united then "the market will bare what the market can bear."

Final thought has anyone ever thought maybe alpa prefers to have lower paid regionals. Thinking that somehow it allows the legacy guys to get paid more off the backs of the RJ drivers.


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