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The Juice 12-14-2008 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by captain152 (Post 518275)
Again ... I stick with my previous statement ... I don't give a sh1t what anyone says about a call I make to keep a plane full of people safe. If I have to make a call that grounds an airplane, so be it. Every situation is unique to that specific flight, and the captain that makes the "go/no-go" decision is in charge with no limitations to his authority. These Saabs are old and things do happen with old planes ... especially ones as complicated as these.
Yes but where does she get off making these calls and questioning a decision. If it is a widely agreed bad decision (see captain flying to IAH after losing an engine after t/o at CLL) then the CA needs to be reprimanded. To "monday morning quarterback" every captain about every abort is ridiculous and even more reason for a.....wait for it.....

UNION

captain152 12-14-2008 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 518280)
Yes but where does she get off making these calls and questioning a decision. If it is a widely agreed bad decision (see captain flying to IAH after losing an engine after t/o at CLL) then the CA needs to be reprimanded. To "monday morning quarterback" every captain about every abort is ridiculous and even more reason for a.....wait for it.....

UNION
I completely agree with you. A captain has the final authority over his/her aircraft, but if the decision made is widely agreed upon to be a bad decision then they should be reprimanded. That example you listed is a perfect one. But, every decision should not be questioned.

FlyJSH 12-14-2008 02:07 PM
Union was what I was going for. Just a reminder that having someone in the pilots' corner makes it easier to make the correct decision.

flyguyniner11 12-14-2008 02:16 PM
NWS is driven off one of the left buses so w/o the bus tie on it wouldn't work. I had her call me about a gate return because the right side ahars wouldn't initialize. I just ok'd her to death. I'd do the same thing again.

BeaglePilot 12-14-2008 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 518321)
NWS is driven off one of the left buses so w/o the bus tie on it wouldn't work. I had her call me about a gate return because the right side ahars wouldn't initialize. I just ok'd her to death. I'd do the same thing again.

Just remember you dont answer to S.B.:rolleyes: There's a reason why she's back.

captain152 12-14-2008 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 518321)
NWS is driven off one of the left buses so w/o the bus tie on it wouldn't work. I had her call me about a gate return because the right side ahars wouldn't initialize. I just ok'd her to death. I'd do the same thing again.
That's a perfectly legitimate reason to do a gate return.. you cannot takeoff without both AHARS working properly ... now if one of them failed on the TO roll, that might be a different story. IMHO you definitely did the right thing. A gate return is a hell of a lot better than an aborted TO


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