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btwissel 12-12-2008 06:43 PM

Disabled Saab in IAH
 
Was taxiing out to 15L today and saw a Saab in the pad, with a bus taking pax to the terminal, and a tug attached. just curious what might have kept them from returning to the gate under their own power.

The Juice 12-12-2008 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by btwissel (Post 517420)
Was taxiing out to 15L today and saw a Saab in the pad, with a bus taking pax to the terminal, and a tug attached. just curious what might have kept them from returning to the gate under their own power.

Not a Colgan plane, no way:rolleyes:

shimmydamp 12-12-2008 08:57 PM

A loss of nosewheel steering would do it.

Cruise 12-12-2008 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by shimmydamp (Post 517471)
A loss of nosewheel steering would do it.

Actually, it wouldn't. The tiller (NWS) is an MEL'able item on the Saab.

Swedish Blender 12-12-2008 11:51 PM

I bet 9 out of 10 Colgan captains have never taxied without using the tiller though.

flyguyniner11 12-13-2008 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 517538)
I bet 9 out of 10 Colgan captains have never taxied without using the tiller though.

i do it all the time, usually the tiller sucks and its just easier to not use it...

DeadHead 12-13-2008 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by shimmydamp (Post 517471)
A loss of nosewheel steering would do it.

A loss of nose wheel steering, due to a Hydraulic problem, would definitely do it.
I think that's what you meant.

Nosewheel steering is an MEL item, but having it fail on a taxi due to unknown causes, even with a remote chance it's related to hydraulics, is discretionary to the captain.
Good judgement would be to error on the side of caution though and get towed in, but every situation is different.

Cruise 12-13-2008 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 517538)
I bet 9 out of 10 Colgan captains have never taxied without using the tiller though.

Yeah, I bet you're wrong; in fact, I'd imagine it would be the other way (9 out of 10 HAVE taxied w/out the tiller). I used to do it all the time when I was on the Saab. It's easy and sometimes, smoother to not use it. :)

But if it is a Hydraulic problem, then you would be correct, that's not such a good thing then. :o

Releasemaster 12-13-2008 06:07 AM

I didn't know the SAAB had a tiller. I thought it was steered by the pedals.

The Juice 12-13-2008 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 517538)
I bet 9 out of 10 Colgan captains have never taxied without using the tiller though.

This FO has taxied many times w/o the tiller, may arm does not reach that far. It is not hard and good practice and kind of fun when you are bored.

My bet on the Saab is they shut the left side down and no bus tie..so no hydraulics to taxi. The only other thing I can think of is the nosewheel did a 180 which I have seen before, looks freaky like that UFC fighter who broke his leg.


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