BFR and Part 121 Currency
12-14-2008 | 05:02 PM
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12-14-2008 | 05:16 PM
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I don't see how it's not spelled out in the regs.
(d) A person who has, within the period
specified in paragraph (c) of this
section, passed a pilot proficiency
check conducted by an examiner, an
approved pilot check airman, or a U.S.
Armed Force, for a pilot certificate,
rating, or operating privilege need not
accomplish the flight review required
by this section.
I can't find any gray in that part of 61.56(d). Where's the confusion?
(d) A person who has, within the period
specified in paragraph (c) of this
section, passed a pilot proficiency
check conducted by an examiner, an
approved pilot check airman, or a U.S.
Armed Force, for a pilot certificate,
rating, or operating privilege need not
accomplish the flight review required
by this section.
I can't find any gray in that part of 61.56(d). Where's the confusion?
I'm not saying it doesn't, but legally the fed could interpret that any way they like. I have enough experience with law to know that this reg (like many FARs) is weak and open to interpretation. Remember this is not criminal or civil law where the tie goes to the runner...the grey area usually goes to the feds.
12-14-2008 | 05:54 PM
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"...passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an examiner..."
... sounds like your question was answered in there. Not sure what else you need. A SIC PC is a PROFICIENCY CHECK conducted by an EXAMINER ... that's a done deal, no questions asked. Now, you may still have to be checked out by one of their instructors in one of their planes to go fly, but that's typical of any FBO
... sounds like your question was answered in there. Not sure what else you need. A SIC PC is a PROFICIENCY CHECK conducted by an EXAMINER ... that's a done deal, no questions asked. Now, you may still have to be checked out by one of their instructors in one of their planes to go fly, but that's typical of any FBO
12-14-2008 | 08:03 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. I was hoping to avoid having to get a copy of my pc. I used to instruct there and I walk in the place in uniform all the time. The lady running the place is just super anal about having paperwork.
I might just go flying and then have a beer with one of my cfi friends. That sounds more entertaining than doing a paper chase.
I might just go flying and then have a beer with one of my cfi friends. That sounds more entertaining than doing a paper chase.
12-15-2008 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. I was hoping to avoid having to get a copy of my pc. I used to instruct there and I walk in the place in uniform all the time. The lady running the place is just super anal about having paperwork.
I might just go flying and then have a beer with one of my cfi friends. That sounds more entertaining than doing a paper chase.
I might just go flying and then have a beer with one of my cfi friends. That sounds more entertaining than doing a paper chase.
12-15-2008 | 01:56 PM
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What is an operating privelege? Does an SIC PC count?
I'm not saying it doesn't, but legally the fed could interpret that any way they like. I have enough experience with law to know that this reg (like many FARs) is weak and open to interpretation. Remember this is not criminal or civil law where the tie goes to the runner...the grey area usually goes to the feds.
I'm not saying it doesn't, but legally the fed could interpret that any way they like. I have enough experience with law to know that this reg (like many FARs) is weak and open to interpretation. Remember this is not criminal or civil law where the tie goes to the runner...the grey area usually goes to the feds.
12-15-2008 | 02:05 PM
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From: blueJet
12-15-2008 | 08:36 PM
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Part 121: "A company shall not use and an airman shall not serve..." & blah blah...
By the nature of operational control the CP, scheduler, dispatcher, airman shall ensure that the crew member (basically the "company" as specified in your FOM, or equivalent) is current and qualified before operating under that rule. I find it strange if a crew member must carry documents (other than cert. and medical) showing their qualifications and currency. I have never seen anything about this in 8400.10 but that doesn't mean its not there.
And as always, call your local FSDO if in doubt.
