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captain152 12-25-2008 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 525398)
if this "aircraft appearance survey" is what I think it is, it is a complete waste of time and only BS busy work for you. Over here at 9e, management DOES NOT CARE what kind of pigpen condition the aiplanes are in, you WILL NOT wait for groomers if it will delay the flight. I can't count the number of times I've been called on my day off by Pinnacle management to explain why we were 5 minutes late because I wouldn't board the aircraft in the pigpen condition it was in. We actually just got a memo last week saying we are NOT to delay boarding for aircraft cleaning/grooming.

As usual, on time bonus checks for management at the expense of livable conditions for the pax/crew.

Thank you for proving my point. MX and management are NOT going to allow us to put a "pigsty" aircraft in line for grooming ahead of a plane with an actual MEL. It's an absolutely ridiculous program and I for one will NOT be paying much attention to it at all!!

Pilotpip 12-25-2008 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 525388)
From an aircraft's mx log:

Prop does not hold RPM in flight -- Cannot be duplicated on ground RTS
Instrument backlighting failed -- MEL number ..... RTS
Pressurization inop -- MEL number ...... RTS
Right Pack inop -- MEL number .... RTS
Seat 10A torn -- All cushions removed and replaced with serviceable units. Extended MELs for Backlighting, Pressurization, and Pac. RTS

And you guys aren't refusing it? Wow.

IBPilot 12-26-2008 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 525453)
And you guys aren't refusing it? Wow.

way to read waaay to far into a simple post there. The guy said "from a MTX log." Not "from my aircrafts mtx log" or "the a/c i flew had this in the log."

Pilotpip 12-26-2008 12:07 PM

Uh, it says "from an aircraft's mx log"

If I saw that many things deferred, extended and the dreaded "ops check ok" or "cannot duplicate on ground" I'd refuse the aircraft.

Now that you guys have representation, you don't have to worry as much about losing your job over safety.

IBPilot 12-26-2008 12:18 PM

You're missing my point. You said Wow you guys didn't refuse it? No where did he say he flew it in that condition.

jedinein 12-26-2008 07:47 PM

Obviously someone refused it, how else did those seat cushions get replaced? ;)

FlyJSH 12-29-2008 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by jedinein (Post 525822)
Obviously someone refused it, how else did those seat cushions get replaced? ;)

Exactly.... thanks for getting it.


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