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Mason32 12-26-2008 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by kojack2101 (Post 525694)
well, my better half is about to be making 6 figures here in Dallas, Were both from here so I would like to stay here......

If you want to stay there, then don't become an airline pilot... you'll never be home.

If I read that correctly, because money doesn't matter to you, you are willing to basically work for free.... and never see the left seat... and spend 4 out of 7 days per week away from your better half?

Have you really researched this idea, has she? or do you just have SJS ?

Pontius Pilot 12-26-2008 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by kojack2101 (Post 525694)
well, my better half is about to be making 6 figures here in Dallas, Were both from here so I would like to stay here......

It is almost a certainty that you won't be able to pick your domicile once hiring resumes...so assuming you would be based at DFW and not LGA or SJU or MIA or ORD or JFK or LAX is not a good idea. You will go where you are needed based on seniority, and DFW with displacements, isn't looking hot right now.

The 'pick your domicile' thing was a great idea to attract people at a time when the airline was able to do it, but the chances of it coming back are not good.

kojack2101 12-26-2008 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 525707)
If you want to stay there, then don't become an airline pilot... you'll never be home.

If I read that correctly, because money doesn't matter to you, you are willing to basically work for free.... and never see the left seat... and spend 4 out of 7 days per week away from your better half?

Have you really researched this idea, has she? or do you just have SJS ?


I have researched this idea, we made it through multiple deployments to Iraq I think we can handle 4-7 day trips. I like Eagle, Ive never said that it is my only choice, I was jsut asking how the pool works. I was just looking for a way not to commute because I hear it sucks.. oh well, if it comes to that then we'll deal with it. Ive been to war, I think I can handle the airlines:)

Pontius Pilot 12-26-2008 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by kojack2101 (Post 525711)
I have researched this idea, we made it through multiple deployments to Iraq I think we can handle 4-7 day trips. I like Eagle, Ive never said that it is my only choice, I was jsut asking how the pool works. I was just looking for a way not to commute because I hear it sucks.. oh well, if it comes to that then we'll deal with it. Ive been to war, I think I can handle the airlines:)

A bit of a difference between war and the airlines. You go to war because you took an oath that you would and if you don't go you get a court marshal, go to prison, have a record to follow you the rest of your life. You don't get to choose to go to war or not if you're in the military.

With the airlines you choose to go and be away from your loved ones. Nobody forces you, no threat of going to prison if you don't. You do it of your own free will and volition with not consequences behind it.

I'd rather be forced away than chose to be away. You'll understand when you're on reserve 1,000 miles away from home and get to see your loved ones 1 to 1.5 days every week - and their work schedules never coincide with yours - so you're lucky to get a few hours with them.

I would do a little more investigation into it. Take the advice from those that are hear living this life. You owe it to yourself to research a little more. I'm not a jaded airline hater - but I jumped into it with little research and now regret it very much. Had I done a little homework I may have never taken the job - I made more money and had a better schedule flight instructing. But what I've found is that nobody really wants to listen to this advice and will just jump in and become miserable in a matter of months. I didn't listen to the one person who tried to warn me, why should anyone else be any different?

So go ahead, get that jet job and I give you 2 months on the line, sitting reserve, making $22k a year, not getting to see your loved ones, before that smile is wiped clean off your face.

kojack2101 12-26-2008 03:13 PM

Look Sir, I understand the lifestyle of an airline pilot. I know many airline pilots. I have no problem moving for a job, the Mrs. understands that its always a possibility. She is in a great job that will allow her to move and still make good money. All Im saying is Eagle can work for me just like any other airline. I understand they have a long upgrade, and I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket at Eagle, Ill go where its best for me and my family. I just wanted to know how the hiring pool works... thats all:)

kojack2101 12-26-2008 03:17 PM

Also, I'm proud that I got to serve my country. I did it of my own accord. I proudly went to Iraq... I wouldn't trade what I learned there for anything.. I wasn't saying that war and the Airlines were the same. as our fellow pilot pointed out, pilots are gone 4-7 days a week, I have been away for years.. I know how hard it is to be in a war zone half a world away.. I signed up for that just like i'm going to the airlines.. at least I'm still in the good ol USA!!

Rnav 12-26-2008 04:00 PM


Ill go where its best for me and my family.
I think a better way to put is, you'll go where the company thinks its best for them. When it comes to airlines you don't have much say/choice in anything once your on the line.

And yes, the smile wiped right off my face(and my family's too) after a few months...

IlliniPilot99 12-26-2008 04:09 PM

4-7 days away...seems great...speaking for every aerial survery pilot...were gone for 7 months straight (the military pilots understand this plus more)

btw not complaining b/c i really enjoy the job! and glad that I have it.

again btw not comparing career paths...b/c i understand why pilots take the jobs that they do.

PIPErdrvr 12-26-2008 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 525693)
Why on earth would somebody just starting out want to come here? I'm not trying to flame bait the thread.... but could some of you Eagle hopefulls please explain the rush to come to a company that will keep you in the right seat for the next 8-10 years?
There is no flowthrough agreement, and won't be.
I'd look to Compass, Messaba or any of the other wholly owned companies that have reasonable upgrade times. Sure, use Eagle as interview practice for the job you really want.... but don't waste 2,3,4 or more years of your career at an airline you will not upgrade at. The QOL is better at Eagle than most, but is still deplorable...

I DO NOT understand you. I mean, is any company worthy to have you as an employee. You bash Mesa for having terrible work rules then you turn around and bash Eagle because they have desirable work rules but the upgrade is long. Maybe ppl won't leave there b/c they actually enjoy what they do and who they do it for. If I'm correct, you work at Eagle. But either way, you shouldn't maintain this double standard. There are plenty of reasons to come to a company like Eagle or any other regional with decent work rules. Why is there anything wrong with wanting to fly a 37/50/70 seat jet for a career. I mean that's not my calling or my desire, but who's to blame the guy who has always wanted to do just that. Sounds like you will never be content wherever you are, so try not to rub that attitude off on those of us who still enjoy the job!!!


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