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Flyby1206 01-03-2009 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 529667)
Eagle is getting 5 ATRs from ASA.

Thats news to me... when is this supposed to happen?

labbats 01-03-2009 08:35 AM

The 5 ATRs from ASA is the new "we're getting 25 more CRJs" rumor. Love it! I got to hear that CRJ rumor for 4 years and it never happened.

RJ Pilot 01-03-2009 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 529667)
Eagle is getting 5 ATRs from ASA.

Lay that crack pipe down would ya..?

Pontius Pilot 01-03-2009 09:54 AM

Why would we buy 5 more ATRs when we just sold all of them to a leasing company??? I also doubt we'd be buying old ones, they're looking to modernize the prop fleet if at all possible. So I think that is just the new Kool-Aid rumor floating around.

stillageek 01-03-2009 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 529908)
Lay that crack pipe down would ya..?

Think of something professional, constructive and literate to say. The majority of the post on this board are industry related speculation and discussion. I don't post much, only when I have something credible and worthwhile to share. Do you work for American Eagle? AMR? Aerospatiale? ASA? and have information that American Eagle is surely not getting additional aircraft?

stillageek 01-03-2009 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot (Post 529935)
Why would we buy 5 more ATRs when we just sold all of them to a leasing company??? I also doubt we'd be buying old ones, they're looking to modernize the prop fleet if at all possible. So I think that is just the new Kool-Aid rumor floating around.

AMR/American Eagle could acquire additional ATR's and do the same sell/lease back they did with the current ATR's. A very common transaction done for various reasons. Flying ERJs DFW to ACT only makes sense because there are not enough ATR's in DFW to fly that route. Same goes for DFW to GGG and DFW to TYR

RJ Pilot 01-03-2009 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 529943)
I don't post much, only when I have something credible and worthwhile to share. Do you work for American Eagle? AMR? Aerospatiale? ASA? and have information that American Eagle is surely not getting additional aircraft?

Your credibility is zero to none. I can assure you that AMR is NOT looking to buy
ASA's old ATR's. As someone else mention,They are looking at the 600's at this time.Thats straight from the "horse mouth"....

RJ Pilot 01-03-2009 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 529946)
AMR/American Eagle could acquire additional ATR's and do the same sell/lease back they did with the current ATR's. A very common transaction done for various reasons. Flying ERJs DFW to ACT only makes sense because there are not enough ATR's in DFW to fly that route. Same goes for DFW to GGG and DFW to TYR

Wrong again. Those airports that you mention ACT,TYR,GGG aren't approved at this time, for air carriers(there is an x amount of seats) seaters or more scheduled operations.Hence the 64 seater ATR cant fly into those mention yet.

stillageek 01-03-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 529994)
Your credibility is zero to none. I can assure you that AMR is NOT looking to buy
ASA's old ATR's. As someone else mention,They are looking at the 600's at this time.Thats straight from the "horse mouth"....

You stated I am not credible. Please provide documentation that what you stated is credible. Otherwise your words are just as worthless as you stated mine are. Quoting what you heard on a forum is the least credible source I can think of....except what the baristas at Starbucks in the airport have to say....they know everything.

Pontius Pilot 01-03-2009 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 529997)
Wrong again. Those airports that you mention ACT,TYR,GGG aren't approved at this time, for air carriers(there is an x amount of seats) seaters or more scheduled operations.Hence the 64 seater ATR cant fly into those mention yet.

This is definitely credible. The first few weeks of ATR service at DFW in 2008, we couldn't go to Lawton, OK because they couldn't handle our gigantic mega Super-ATR! Apparently TSA didn't have enough people to stand around with nothing to do. The increase of standing around watching 60+ people was too great. Somehow they overcame this great setback. I think they imported Thousands Standing Around agents from some other airport.

I just don't see Eagle buying old ATRs when they were planning on buying new. Selling the current ATRs gives Eagle liquidity and the ability to pursue newer props, modernize the fleet. Because we owned them so long and they were (presumably) paid off, a profit could be realized on them - this would not be the case buying ASA's ATRs.


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