GA Skies Sucks
 

You guys were right and I should have listened

I just reviewed the old thread. Why don't you provide some details why you should have listened? Make an informative post.

USMCFLYR

For those of us local and on furlough watch, specifics would be nice. Does the schedule suck or is it MX or all of the above?

why is this in regional

They dont tell you your schedule until the night before. So like for example I was out one Monday night around 8 pm, called this 1-800 number to find out I had o be at work at 4 am. That in my view is not professional. This is not my first job. I have been a police officer, school teacher and other jobs. But this is soooo unprofessional its crazy. I am way too old for this kind of unprofessionalism.

Anyway, this has really made me wonder what I invested in and I really want to go back into law enforcement. i dont want to say too much more cause the powers that be may be monitoring this site.

Same as reserve at a some regionals. The norm.

is this the one that flies caravans? Oh.. and welcome to the glamourous world of airline flying....

Sorry to hear about GA Skies sucking it up so much. Come on over to Wings Air if you have your ATP or ATP mins.

BTW, what are y'alls takeoff mins?

It's like that at my job as well (not knowing my schedule until the night before), but let me tell you, it's a relief compared to what you'd see in other jobs. Being junior at most airlines you don't know your schedule until about 2 hours prior. Worse yet, I have a friend on a Beechjet at a charter department who doesn't even get hard days off; they'll call him the night before and tell him if he has a day off the next day. Can't plan a damn thing.

They cancel any flight that is not close to full and FIM the few pax all ready on board to other airlines. Standard "135" practice! No money to lose!

Being on the regional board gets the word out...

They have a nice website with a picture of a captain. Is that a soul patch or dirt under his mouth?

GeorgiaSkies : 877-849-4997 : Go Green!

3, 3, 3 :D

Oh the horror. :rolleyes: My trip has been changed twice in the time I've been reading this thread. Were you expecting a hard schedule? It sounds to me like a typical entry level 135 job. If the planes are safe and they aren't pushing you to do anything illegal I would suck it up until something better came along. With a little caravan experience you might be competitive for some of the Fed Ex feeders.

Georgia Skies is that Caravan operator that bases out of Atlantic ATL, right?

Is it just the schedule? I worked at a 121 that did that. We bid for a schedule, but trying to bid for certain flights was a futile effort, you didn't know where you were going until the night before. It sounds like you're home every evening, so while frustrating, it could be worse.

I knew I MIGHT be working on Christmas and Christmas Eve. Got called at 4pm for a 6pm flight. On Christmas Day, that was just as I was walking out the door for Christmas Dinner. So microwave pizza it was!

Hate to say it, but this industry will throw you some curve balls. You do it because you enjoy it, not because you like the schedule or the money.

That comes much later, if ever...

Checko

Yep. Really, its a DBA for Pacific Wings, like New Mexico Airlines.

Oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's scary unprofessional! A 17 year old captain (non caps on purpose) with a peach fuzz "flavor saver" in your pr pics!?!:eek: nice.:rolleyes:

At first blush these wings air guys seem to be the way to go.

Fly Wings Air

I have no problem working on Christmas Day or any holiday . I dont mind comming in at 4 am. I would just like to know about it in advance.

I am an officer in the Reserves and I have to plan my life and I need to know whats comming up so that I can plan. When things are hit on me like that it messes up the plannning process.

Do you at least know which days you're working?

This is how I looked at it. I bid for days off and basically wrote off the days I was working. If I got off early or came in late, it was a bonus and I took care of what I needed to do on those days.

Did it suck yeah, but it was my job. I later moved on to another job where my schedule was a bit more set (but the chances of getting JA'd on a day off were more).

Hate to say it, but... Welcome to the Airlines!! :)

Checko

So just because the guy looks young, its "scary unprofessional". I must have missed that memo...

What else are you going to tell passengers the guy who sits in the left seat of a single pilot airplane is?

If you go to the website of Pacific Wings, their parent company, there are tons of pictures of woman pilots. Oh man, send the Coast Guard up now, they're going to have lots of planes to look for between the islands.

This airline flies caravans, not 747's.

:rolleyes:

Checko

Doing the Reserve/Guard gig and civilian commercial flying is a big hassle sometimes. I feel for ya'. Drill weekends and AT's can be a problem, especially if you are at an outfit that has limited or no experience with pilots doing it.
Sorry you are having problems with your schedule but it does sound like what I've experienced too. And probably lots of others who are doing/ have done 135.
Hopefully you have decent dispatchers at your outfit, good ones are worth their weight in gold, and bad ones have the power to seriously cost you a lot of wasted time and money.
I know nothing about your outfits staffing situation. Might be run by complete bozos, might not.
I would hope however if you explain your situation with being in the reserves though that they will try to help you out. Also, do you have the possibility of doing trade days with another pilot on your scheduled drill days and for AT's?
I know you are frustrated, but is this the proper venue to vent your frustrations? Your initial thread title is very eye-catching, but pretty unprofessional in my opinion. Have you talked to your CP or DO, or even dispatch yet about your concerns?
Good luck.

Does GA skies even pay their FOs? Or is it the other small prop operation out of Atlanta (or Athens?) that doesn't pay their FOs?

Maybe, but check out the "fleet" page. Apparently, they think it's called the "Federal Aviation Authority."

Wings Air FO's on the Navajo's aren't paid...based in LZU

Zing! Those studs!

We dont bid for schedules. We all work five days a week with two days off. We bid for days off. Its not the one weekend a month and AT thats the issue. Its the "other" stuff as a commander I have to do. For example I had to go to a four day conference in addition to my normal two day drill. I habe to another two day confence next month.

It doesnt matter anymore, they terminated me last night and refuse to tell me why. They say they dont have to because it is a rite to work state. It has really put a sour taste in my mouth for this industry. It was never like this in the mlitary and I am strongly thinking of going back active duty.

Sorry guys. I am just not used to this kind of treatment from a profession.

It might just be because most "companies" in this industry are more appropriately described as "outfits."

The days of real innovation, logic and compassion for employees in ANY industry in this country are long gone.

Its customary to bring a cop with you when you go back for your headphones. Once you are a "EX" they will threaten you with everything the hair lip can think of.... and more. Expect to have your name dragged through the boards. These guys don't give a $hit because of the sucker factor attached to every low time pilot cert. This is not the industry, its just the pacific wings "D.H.'s" at work..

Sorry to hear that, although you'll probably be better off.

If you suspect they fired you because of your reserve duties, please contact the ESGR folks for some advice. Right to work does NOT give them the right to fire reservists unless they can show that their reasons were not due to your military duty. While they might be able to fire a civilian without any justification, in your case they will have to show good reason or the default assumption will be that you were fired because of your service. You might have some money coming your way.

These are the same Guys that run Pacific Wings in Hawaii. They Only go after the EAS routes because thats what their business model is modeled around....for a new Commercial Pilot with 400 hours and who hates to Flight Instruct its a job.....but the people who run Pac Wings in Hawaii are all idiots. They know they can get Joe Pilot from anywhere to fly a caravan they dont care about what they do to you and will fly you to death. If you want to be treated like an imigrant worker and get paid 2 cents on the dollar to work your fingers to the bone this place is for you!

This place sounds like a M. B. outfit. Use to run airlink before it was pinnacle and CEA out of midway.

WORSE.. Owner bought pw with daddy's money. Then bought maui house from greedy pineapple co. a month or two after 90 year old Pineapple Plantation Grandma died. She raised the greedy people that sold it. Pw owner bought it with again Daddy's money. Now He shoots skeet every evening like Magum PI and higgins.

N6724G sorry to hear that you were fired without so much as a warning. Sounds like a trashy way to treat a highly trained, dedicated professional. Assuming you were doing a safe and legal job, the fact you are not even sure what they fired you for sounds like proof they are trashy about the way they treat pilots. If it was just the scheduling conflict, then do as Ricks says and get a lawyer to see if you can get a settlement out of it. If they are the trashy people they sound like you will scare the heck out of them such a move.

At any rate, aviation is a small world and people will learn about them in due time. They are a new outfit in the Atlanta area and the story will get out.

well said... i couldnt have put it better myself.:D

What does Assuming do for you?

Thanks Rick, I never thought about that. But you are right. Because I ant think of any other reason. I have no bad perfomance write ups and I know of no complaints against me, so you are right. The assumption is becaue of the Reserve duty. In fact, that was a concern of theirs when I told them I had to be gone for two days for a conference.

Even airport security will cheat, lie, and resort to violence to get these guys.

Search "Pacific wings" in the maui news link for more GOODIES..

http://www.mauinews.com/page/content...id/512372.html

I am not a lawyer or a legal expert, but my understanding is that federal labor laws do not allow military Reservists to be discriminated against on account of their obligations as Reservists. If the Military did not have these protections then no one would be able to hold a job who was also serving part time in the Reserves. Refer to RickAir7777's post on this thread for clarification. The obvious implication is that Reservists must be protected from being fired simply because they are not available for scheduling as much as everyone else. However, if Ga Skies fired our guy for other reasons, such as failure to comply to FAA regulations or any of a number of other legitimate reasons, then he may be fired without legal repercussions.

Personally I hope that N6724G looks into this, because if Ga Skies is bold enough to fire people simply because they cannot make their schedule on account of Reserve duty, it is an egregious offense that needs to be addressed.

And GA Skies has a government contrat to fly EAS routes. EAS ia contract the gov't does to provide air service from small airports to major airports. US Airways was doing it but they left and GS skies got the contract.

Regardless of what kind of flying they're doing that's BS. Both airlines I've worked at gave a no questions asked "ok" if you had military duty.

Thanks for your service. Take them to the cleaners.