Why Don't we get Tips???
12-27-2008, 05:20 AM
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Why Don't we get Tips???
If we Screw Up Everybody Dies!!! Read this Article
StraightForward Media Blog Blog Archive Don’t forget to tip your airline pilot!
StraightForward Media Blog Blog Archive Don’t forget to tip your airline pilot!
12-27-2008, 05:31 AM
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I understand the point of that blog post and you starting this thread is to emphasize regional airline pilots are underpaid (you're preaching to the APC choir in that regard), but you don't get tips as an airline pilot because safely flying the airplane IS YOUR JOB.
12-27-2008, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I understand the point of that blog post and you starting this thread is to emphasize regional airline pilots are underpaid (you're preaching to the APC choir in that regard), but you don't get tips as an airline pilot because safely flying the airplane IS YOUR JOB.
12-27-2008, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
Agreed, but we tip taxi drivers and restaurant servers to do their jobs too.
Plus those are not salaried positions, tips are a large percentage to certain hourly-compensated workers in most "service" jobs.
Thirdly, even if it was customary to tips flight crews I wouldn't start lighting cigars with $100 bills since most people on average don't tip well. I've waited for a few years and I'd say in average tips were 10%-12%, but then again I wasn't a very good waiter. Apparently bad people skills and being a pilot go hand in hand.
12-27-2008, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
As bad as salaries have gotten over the years, I think we make more than taxi drivers and waiters. Well, at least most taxi drivers and waiters.
Plus those are not salaried positions, tips are a large percentage to certain hourly-compensated workers in most "service" jobs.
Thirdly, even if it was customary to tips flight crews I wouldn't start lighting cigars with $100 bills since most people on average don't tip well. I've waited for a few years and I'd say in average tips were 10%-12%, but then again I wasn't a very good waiter. Apparently bad people skills and being a pilot go hand in hand.
Plus those are not salaried positions, tips are a large percentage to certain hourly-compensated workers in most "service" jobs.
Thirdly, even if it was customary to tips flight crews I wouldn't start lighting cigars with $100 bills since most people on average don't tip well. I've waited for a few years and I'd say in average tips were 10%-12%, but then again I wasn't a very good waiter. Apparently bad people skills and being a pilot go hand in hand.
Actually, what's sad is that with my new job I'm finally making more as a pilot than I did as a server. At one restaurant in the LA area I was making $30k/year or so to work 25 hours per week. Sad.
12-27-2008, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by willflyforfood
If we Screw Up Everybody Dies!!! Read this Article
StraightForward Media Blog Blog Archive Don’t forget to tip your airline pilot!
StraightForward Media Blog Blog Archive Don’t forget to tip your airline pilot!
12-27-2008, 06:02 AM
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Did you read the link?
The article brings up that there's a regional pilot who makes $31K, and that's surprisingly low. Of course, we all aren't surprised. What is surprising is the comments made on the article:
I bet Bridget wishes she was a Fed Ex or UPS pilot too.
When you get a V1 cut, you're on your own - this gal will be watching the autopilot handle it while thinking about her great benefits.
Hopefully Bridget is a pilot for UPS or FedEx and risks only the lives of her co-pilots — and possibly a few ground casualties — on each flight.
As a pilot myself, I find it amusing how everyone thinks we make big bucks. People always figure we have hundreds of lives in our hands, both in air and on the ground, but that isn’t true. Airline planes have auto-pilot, so the people in the cockpit are really just there to make the passengers feel better. The big jets can fly without pilots, but who would get on a plane being operated by some guy in a dark control room at an undisclosed ground location? Of course, the salary of pilots isn’t so bad when you consider the benfits they get. All pilots are compensated fairly for their work, just like everyone else with a job.
12-27-2008, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by willflyforfood
If we Screw Up Everybody Dies!!! Read this Article
StraightForward Media Blog Blog Archive Don’t forget to tip your airline pilot!
StraightForward Media Blog Blog Archive Don’t forget to tip your airline pilot!
Last edited by flyifrvfr; 12-27-2008 at 09:19 AM.
12-27-2008, 09:30 AM
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Well if every one on a flight was to tip 10% of their ticket cost the math goes like this.
Based on a cheap ticket of $150
10%=15 bucks per passenger
$15 x 100 people on the flight= $1500
$1500 x 3 legs= $4500
$4500 / 2 pilots= $2250
$2250 x 3 day trip=$6750
$6750 x 4 trips a month= $27,000 a month
$27,000 x 12 months= $324,000 a year.
Not bad. Start tipping.
Based on a cheap ticket of $150
10%=15 bucks per passenger
$15 x 100 people on the flight= $1500
$1500 x 3 legs= $4500
$4500 / 2 pilots= $2250
$2250 x 3 day trip=$6750
$6750 x 4 trips a month= $27,000 a month
$27,000 x 12 months= $324,000 a year.
Not bad. Start tipping.
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