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Old 01-07-2009, 07:34 AM
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The past has been great as a pilot group without a contract we still where able to become the best performing airline in these United States of America. Our MEC has fought a tough battle with a management that will not reward us for making them shine to their Major airline partners. They have been rewarded by getting countless bonus on the sweat of the pilot group. Now as if thats not enough they are about to displace 30 CA's as a ploy to toy with the union into a sub-standard contract. They offered a Leave of Absence to CA and I personally know of 10 CA's in one base(MEM) that signed up for it. The Numbers came back strong and management decides not to pursue that course. Is it not better to let the hard working man and women of 9E take the LOA then displace the 30 CA's that would most likely want to stay in their current position. I found it odd that we got the "thanks but no thanks" message from EF regarding the LOA. ( if I am missing something here, can anyone at 9E who has a better understanding of that rather untactful move fill me in?) Our future at 9E hinges on us getting decent contract to sweat over and performance. As far as I know the Pilots still do their all in making sure that we meet goals set for us by the same people that stab us in the back and will not agree to give us a what we are asking for. Economic times are turn and that will be the company's next excuse. We were able to ride out the high gas price wave and we should be able to ride out the next set of waves. finally, will this new administration even come to our rescue?

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I'm not a pinnacle person but here are my two cents any way. I think once Obama, and his administration, get into office your MEC will make a hard push to be released, and they will probably succeed. Obama has often said that he is pro-union, and I think his administration will give you the chance at self-help. Now, that being said, if through this Pinnacle Management somehow comes to their wits, and gives you a contract, instead of running your company into the ground, things will be looking up at pinnacle. A contract has been long overdue.I think that once you do get the contract you will get the 17 -200's that Mesaba is currently operating (15 of which were pncl airplanes) and things at pinnacle will become much better than they are currently.

Now will any of this happen? Maybe, maybe not, but its just my guess...
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I still think its all a ploy, especially with the new administration. Screwing the pilots is all the company can do. Once we DO get a contract we will need even more pilots. We need those 30 CA's to stay CA's and we need 30 more FO's from the pool. Thats the numbers as they play. For me to get a JM phone call during a non-weather day (in any hub) and a non-holiday when there are 500 FO's under me shows that this circus needs a better ringleader. The smoke machine for smoke and mirrors is about to get turned off. Since it is very obvious who I am I won't trash talk, but those involved in the displacement and the unprofessional nature of a crew message instead of a memo or even open talks with the union to work out something shows that this company and those in mgmt that happen to own epaulets are not folks I will give any public praise to. I can't even type the words I want to say cause it would only come out as ---- ---.
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I still think its all a ploy, especially with the new administration. Screwing the pilots is all the company can do. Once we DO get a contract we will need even more pilots. We need those 30 CA's to stay CA's and we need 30 more FO's from the pool. Thats the numbers as they play. For me to get a JM phone call during a non-weather day (in any hub) and a non-holiday when there are 500 FO's under me shows that this circus needs a better ringleader. The smoke machine for smoke and mirrors is about to get turned off. Since it is very obvious who I am I won't trash talk, but those involved in the displacement and the unprofessional nature of a crew message instead of a memo or even open talks with the union to work out something shows that this company and those in mgmt that happen to own epaulets are not folks I will give any public praise to. I can't even type the words I want to say cause it would only come out as ---- ---.
This was a conversation I had we scheduling last week:

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Me: Just out of curiousity why are you folks Junior Assigning so much lately?

Them: We are WAAAAY understaffed. We just don't have enough pilots.

Me: Then why did they cancel the last two FO classes and why aren't we hiring?

Them: Hang on let me ask the supervisor... (pause)... She says, "Because the folks in admin say we're overstaffed." (followed by laughter all over the room)
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It will be interesting to see the marketing hours on the Feb & March bid packets.

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They tried to extend me two days ago, and my phone just got done ringing for a JM..lol...no help from me

like hingney they would have to call some 400 FO"s to call me..
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They tried to extend me two days ago, and my phone just got done ringing for a JM..lol...no help from me

like hingney they would have to call some 400 FO"s to call me..
my phone rang yesterday and today for JMs and i'm 400 up the list or so. Crewtrac already shows me flying 95 hours by the end of this month just with my awarded schedule... wth

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I like how they asked FA's in December to take leaves in Feb, yet they had a FA class Dec 16......staffing model my butt
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I like how they asked FA's in December to take leaves in Feb, yet they had a FA class Dec 16......staffing model my butt
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They tried to extend me two days ago, and my phone just got done ringing for a JM..lol...no help from me

like hingney they would have to call some 400 FO"s to call me..
Sounds like Pncl management is letting the monkey do all the numbers without someone with any sense doublecheck the figures. 2 and 2 is just not adding up. Folks out there are having 30/7 issues in the left seat. Uncle Phil is it really a good idea to go trim 30 CA's that ur airplanes need to get of the ground while all the other CA's are already flying to the to the limit?? I dont really care to know where our management got the Business degree's, they surely missed a few lessons or skipped class on the wrong day!!

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I dont really care to know where our management got the Business degree's, they surely missed a few lessons or skipped class on the wrong day!!
they played hookey during the "ethics" courses....
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