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flyguyniner11 01-10-2009 08:53 AM

a new FO evaulation progam SB is starting for FO's during their first year they have to get evaulated by one capt a month, i dont think its a bad idea, takes about 30 seconds to fill out the form

The Juice 01-10-2009 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 535006)
a new FO evaulation progam SB is starting for FO's during their first year they have to get evaulated by one capt a month, i dont think its a bad idea, takes about 30 seconds to fill out the form

Oh,I think that is a good idea. Other airlines have these and it is a good training tool. I would be upset if it were for all FO's. Since your first year is a probation period, it makes since.

flyguyniner11 01-10-2009 10:11 AM

it might be beneficial for experianced fo's to do it for new capts, althought i dunno if that would go over so well

The Juice 01-10-2009 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 535048)
it might be beneficial for experianced fo's to do it for new capts, althought i dunno if that would go over so well

There are some Street CA's that I would love to do one for

IQuitEagle 01-10-2009 10:29 AM

I was actually surprised when I was at Colgan that there were no probationary reports on new FOs.

However, reports such as these are not the proper form of handling underperforming crew members. It is just another way of management trying to get crew members to rat on one another and do their dirty work for them.

As you will soon find now that you have ALPA, the best way to handle difficult or dangerous crew members is through Pro Standards. Use it. It's good and effective, and keeps the company out of it, unless the situation really and truly warrants it.

flyguyniner11 01-10-2009 11:40 AM

Haha typical post!!

newarkblows 01-10-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by mjb00123 (Post 533967)
I really feel bad for all of the FO's! That pay is crap. Hopefully ALPA will come to the rescue with a pay bump for you guys. Has their been much open time lately

When any airline offers you a job you really have to look at the whole picture. Not just the current upgrade. An fo at colgan still has a good chance at upgrading relatively quickly at the expense of short term income. They could have been at other places making more with more time off... any choice you make is a gamble.

The Juice 01-10-2009 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by mjb00123 (Post 533967)
I really feel bad for all of the FO's! That pay is crap. Hopefully ALPA will come to the rescue with a pay bump for you guys. Has their been much open time lately

It is a weird situation. If I had gone to another carrier instead of Colgan I may have been furloughed. If not furloughed, close to the bottom of the list. At least I have some seniority here to get schedules I want with weekends off. So yes the pay sucks, especially since I will be rocking 3rd year FO pay here in a few months. But I am glad to have a job right now with a pilot group who voted in a union, we can start to make things better.

JoeyMeatballs 01-10-2009 12:22 PM

Sounds cheesy but I saved all of my F/O Effectiveness reports from my first year at Expressjet, I am going to bring them along on an y future interviews :)

Pontius Pilot 01-10-2009 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by skidmark (Post 534928)
What the hell is going on with these FO grade reports. Absoultly stupid. Glad there is not captain grades.

We have them at Eagle. Probationary pilot reports. Actually they work out pretty good for the FO. If you get into trouble they can really help you out. They pull them out at the probationary check and factor what is in there into keeping you or not. Suppose you had a few missed assignments and a big old load of 'good grades' - might be beneficial to you. The unfortunate thing is they aren't required at Eagle...so we have to beg to get them filled out many times. 1 a month would be great. I think I have 5 in my file.

It lets them know, from the Captains point of view, what kind of pilot you are and if you're a good employee for the company to retain.


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