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Spooled 01-14-2009 10:32 AM

Pinnacle Annoucement Soon
 
Well this time I don't know whats going on..but there was a meeting the other day...and they intend on announcing 'something' soon.

Is it good or bad? I have a feeling it may be bad news

Anyone have any ideas?

:cool:

Squawk_5543 01-14-2009 10:40 AM

I think it will be bad. But thats all I can say. Good luck!

Airsupport 01-14-2009 10:43 AM

well they had a conference call today, but i didn't listen in.. and thats my 1/100th of a cent


Originally Posted by Squawk_5543 (Post 537656)
I think it will be bad. But thats all I can say. Good luck!

and what do you think it is?

SeeYouNextTime 01-14-2009 10:45 AM

I believe Pinnacle will be getting 17 CRJ-200's back from Mesaba. And Mesaba will be displacing the 200 pilots to the 9.

Airsupport 01-14-2009 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by SeeYouNextTime (Post 537662)
I believe Pinnacle will be getting 17 CRJ-200's back from Mesaba. And Mesaba will be displacing the 200 pilots to the 9.


i have heard this for the last couple of weeks, but nothing to back it up. and we just displaced 30 capts, so if we are getting them back then they must plan on parking them.

3greens 01-14-2009 10:57 AM

Here we go again. How bad can it get though.. isnt it already quite bad EVERYWHERE! :confused:

What are you guys thinking will be the announcement? They already announced the displacement of 30 CA's effective march 2nd right? so whats next? :(

Spoilers 01-14-2009 11:06 AM

The 10 CRJ900s from ASA will re-assigned to Pinnacle.

elfouquer 01-14-2009 11:09 AM

I think that the big announcement will be that they are going to resume hiring, but they're only going to hire one person, and it's going to be 3greens!

TurboDog 01-14-2009 11:10 AM

They are offering buyouts and early out programs at Comair. Maybe it's heading your way as well? After all there is a lot of talk about regional merges. It wouldn't only make sense to cut as much from each unit before you merge them.

SilverandSore 01-14-2009 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 537651)
Well this time I don't know whats going on..but there was a meeting the other day...and they intend on announcing 'something' soon.

Is it good or bad? I have a feeling it may be bad news

Anyone have any ideas?

:cool:


My own personal theory is that Pinnacle is next in the musical chairs; 50 seat pull down edition. ASA (ATRs, 50s), Chautauqua (135s), Comair (50s, 900s and I think some 70s) and Freedom (900s and hopefully everything else) have all lost physical seats. Mesaba seemed to be gaining all sorts of stuff but that's been reassigned. That leaves Pinnacle to take a little dose of 50 seat reductions. I believed ASA was going to be the next hard core whipping boy (ala Comair) but the 900s changed that. Who knows, like I said, just my theory.

flyguy23 01-14-2009 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 537682)
My own personal theory is that Pinnacle is next in the musical chairs; 50 seat pull down edition. ASA (ATRs, 50s), Chautauqua (135s), Comair (50s, 900s and I think some 70s) and Freedom (900s and hopefully everything else) have all lost physical seats. Mesaba seemed to be gaining all sorts of stuff but that's been reassigned. That leaves Pinnacle to take a little dose of 50 seat reductions. I believed ASA was going to be the next hard core whipping boy (ala Comair) but the 900s changed that. Who knows, like I said, just my theory.

ASA gaining those 10 900s resulted in a net loss of 10 aircraft. They are giving up 20 200s in return. Everyone is getting hit by Delta.

SilverandSore 01-14-2009 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 537687)
ASA gaining those 10 900s resulted in a net loss of 10 aircraft. They are giving up 20 200s in return. Everyone is getting hit by Delta.


Yes, I said that in my post... notice the (ATRs and 50s) in parentheses after ASA?

Airsupport 01-14-2009 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 537681)
They are offering buyouts and early out programs at Comair. Maybe it's heading your way as well? After all there is a lot of talk about regional merges. It wouldn't only make sense to cut as much from each unit before you merge them.


as far as buyouts and early outs that is possible, however unlikely. in december they put out a memo to see how many people would like some time off with a leave of absence to off set the displacement. well 2 weeks into it they had a ton of people who had turned in the papers wanting 30+days off. well the very next week the company sent out a memo saying they had decided not to go that route.

that is why lots of us here think the displacement is smoke and mirrors. they had more than enough captains volunteer for an loa and they decided against it. we were technically frozen by the national mediation board and were not supposed to be unfrozen till the end of april. well at the end of december the nmb got together and we will be meeting with them and the company for 5 days straight starting on the 26th. most of the pilots i know feel that if the nmb doesn't get something out of it during those 5 days that we will be released. still a little time away, but i believe things are coming to a head here real quick.

flyguy23 01-14-2009 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 537696)
Yes, I said that in my post... notice the (ATRs and 50s) in parentheses after ASA?


My bad. Looks like I only payed attention to the last part of your post.

joethepilot 01-14-2009 12:39 PM

I'm just gonna throw this out there. Pinnacle-Colgan Merger?

bored 01-14-2009 12:51 PM

How is Mesaba going to GIVE BACK 17 200s when we only had 15 transferred to begin with? That rumor is tired and old. Isn't there anything better to talk about over at PCL?

CAPTAIN INSANO 01-14-2009 12:56 PM

CRJ-200s are making money right now.

You guys are buying into managements scheme of outsourcing mainline jobs to regional pukes like us.

:eek::eek::eek:

Airsupport 01-14-2009 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 537759)
How is Mesaba going to GIVE BACK 17 200s when we only had 15 transferred to begin with? That rumor is tired and old. Isn't there anything better to talk about over at PCL?

lol, good ole bored's typical chime in.. vintage.:)

SeeYouNextTime 01-14-2009 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 537759)
How is Mesaba going to GIVE BACK 17 200s when we only had 15 transferred to begin with? That rumor is tired and old. Isn't there anything better to talk about over at PCL?

Yeah. I also heard them 5 nine's we're getting gonna go to the nickel too.

Or maybe the announcement is the Pinnacle will have a TA soon.:D

Airsupport 01-14-2009 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 537750)
I'm just gonna throw this out there. Pinnacle-Colgan Merger?


now this is something i could buy into. pinnacle is officially moving all of the colgan stuff from VA to memphis. colgan just voted in alpa. we could easily file for single carrier status and it would probably win with no hitches. if they would have left the headquarters in va then maybe they could have kept us seperate.

OchoCinco 01-14-2009 01:24 PM

Yeah baby, I'm factory trained!!!!

tpersuit 01-14-2009 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 537750)
I'm just gonna throw this out there. Pinnacle-Colgan Merger?

Even though that may sting at first, that would be huge for both pilot groups there.

HIREME 01-14-2009 02:00 PM

have a feeling this is referring to the displacement awards that just came out

swoopyjp 01-14-2009 02:21 PM

I heard Capt. Gerhold is gonna be the new MSP chief pilot.

rvr350 01-14-2009 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by swoopyjp (Post 537817)
I heard Capt. Gerhold is gonna be the new MSP chief pilot.

What happened to Gary?

Spooled 01-14-2009 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by swoopyjp (Post 537817)
I heard Capt. Gerhold is gonna be the new MSP chief pilot.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

higney85 01-14-2009 03:06 PM

I had a conf call the other day and only stuff said was negotiations jan 26-30th. Then again I know nothing!

Cruise 01-14-2009 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 537750)
I'm just gonna throw this out there. Pinnacle-Colgan Merger?


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 537790)
Even though that may sting at first, that would be huge for both pilot groups there.



I support this 100%! It would be beneficial for both pilot groups. In fact, I hope it happens sooner, rather than later.

EEmbraer 01-14-2009 03:16 PM

Delta made an announcement to its investors today that they will now be contracting out 90 to 100 seat flying to some of its regional partners. Delta also stated that with the merger, they are looking to eliminate some of their regional partners. They have advised certain companies to consider mergers as the NW/DL deal continues to come together.

Management from Compass Airlines was spotted in Indianapolis today for an unknown reason. Mesaba management was also spotted in Memphis during the last few days. Finally, Jerry Atkin was seen in Cincinnati.

What does this all mean? Formulate your own conclusions.

flycrj200 01-14-2009 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by EEmbraer (Post 537845)
Delta made an announcement to its investors today that they will now be contracting out 90 to 100 seat flying to some of its regional partners. Delta also stated that with the merger, they are looking to eliminate some of their regional partners. They have advised certain companies to consider mergers as the NW/DL deal continues to come together.

Management from Compass Airlines was spotted in Indianapolis today for an unknown reason. Mesaba management was also spotted in Memphis during the last few days. Finally, Jerry Atkin was seen in Cincinnati.

What does this all mean? Formulate your own conclusions.

Where do you get your information from?

ToiletDuck 01-14-2009 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by EEmbraer (Post 537845)
Delta made an announcement to its investors today that they will now be contracting out 90 to 100 seat flying to some of its regional partners. Delta also stated that with the merger, they are looking to eliminate some of their regional partners. They have advised certain companies to consider mergers as the NW/DL deal continues to come together.

Management from Compass Airlines was spotted in Indianapolis today for an unknown reason. Mesaba management was also spotted in Memphis during the last few days. Finally, Jerry Atkin was seen in Cincinnati.

What does this all mean? Formulate your own conclusions.

Is there anything at all to support any of this?

mking84 01-14-2009 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 537854)
Is there anything at all to support any of this?

I heard DAL was so impressed with what Midwest mgmt did with RAH, they will be replacing all their 737 and newly acquired dc9 and a320 flying from NWA with the mighty 170 and RAH pilots.

rickair7777 01-14-2009 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by EEmbraer (Post 537845)
Delta made an announcement to its investors today that they will now be contracting out 90 to 100 seat flying to some of its regional partners.

There is nothing about this on Delta-Net. Also, I don't believe DAL-ALPA has approved a scope relief for more large RJ's.

This seems so improbable as to be flamebait. Where is your source?




Originally Posted by EEmbraer (Post 537845)
Delta also stated that with the merger, they are looking to eliminate some of their regional partners. They have advised certain companies to consider mergers as the NW/DL deal continues to come together.

Old news.

Noseeums 01-14-2009 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by elfouquer (Post 537679)
I think that the big announcement will be that they are going to resume hiring, but they're only going to hire one person, and it's going to be 3greens!

LOL

you beat me to it.

Noseeums 01-14-2009 04:07 PM

Latest I heard was Pinnacle only rented one CRJ-200 sim for all of 2009.

3greens 01-14-2009 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Noseeums (Post 537883)
LOL

you beat me to it.

Hahaha.. good one buddy! :rolleyes:

3greens 01-14-2009 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by elfouquer (Post 537679)
I think that the big announcement will be that they are going to resume hiring, but they're only going to hire one person, and it's going to be 3greens!

Hey buddy.. quick word of advice for ya... get something better to do with ur time.. :p

Noseeums 01-14-2009 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by 3greens (Post 537896)
Hahaha.. good one buddy! :rolleyes:

Well I hope (for our sake and yours) that it's good news and hiring will resume. Unfortunately in this biz you have to plan for the worst and hope for the best. Updating my résumé tonight.

On Autopilot 01-14-2009 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by EEmbraer (Post 537845)
Delta made an announcement to its investors today that they will now be contracting out 90 to 100 seat flying to some of its regional partners. Delta also stated that with the merger, they are looking to eliminate some of their regional partners. They have advised certain companies to consider mergers as the NW/DL deal continues to come together.

Management from Compass Airlines was spotted in Indianapolis today for an unknown reason. Mesaba management was also spotted in Memphis during the last few days. Finally, Jerry Atkin was seen in Cincinnati.

What does this all mean? Formulate your own conclusions.

Lots of mergers, musical chairs, and some regionals going bye bye.
Comair is offering buyouts-early outs to be the best dressed wh0re when a merger partner comes around. the best part- she's heavy into anal!!! She wasn't willing, then "D" came along. She liked it so much, she started treating her own the same way.

laserman2431 01-14-2009 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Noseeums (Post 537883)
LOL

you beat me to it.

This is way too funny...


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