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flycrj200 01-21-2009 09:22 AM

I never read any news stories that have to do with airlines or pilots unless it’s in an aviation publication. All you will get is wrong information that will **** you off.

Denny Crane 01-21-2009 12:10 PM

I copied this from somewhere and it is soooooooo appropriate. Maybe some one should email it to this guy..... I'm sure some of you have seen it before but it is still worth seeing again.

"When you see a pilot, he’s not getting paid.

When you see a pilot going through the same security you go through, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot walking in the terminal, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot at the gate pulling up the paper work, planning the flight, and conferring with the agent, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot walking around the aircraft doing a preflight inspection, he's not being paid.

When you board the aircraft and look in the cockpit and see the pilots setting up the flight deck, they're not getting paid.

When you land safely at your destination and walk off the aircraft and see the pilots shutting down the aircraft, they're not being paid.

When you see a pilot waiting for a ride to a hotel for the night, he's not being paid.

The only time the pilot of your aircraft is getting paid is when you DON’T see him ... when he's locked behind the cockpit door as you push back from the gate. Every thing else he does until this point is for free, for no wages, nothing!

The average airline pilot is at work 12-14 hours per day, yet gets paid for less than 6 or 7 hours.

The average airline pilot is away from home, at work, for 70+ hours a week, yet gets paid for only 15 to 18 hours per week.

Most pilots’ schedules have them working 15 days or more a month. That means they are not at home half of the month. Holidays, weekends, birthdays, anniversaries, summer vacations ... not at home.

A majority of pilots have 4-year college degrees or more. Then they begin training as pilots.

A large majority of pilots have spent 8 years or more flying in the military, risking their lives and protecting your freedom for wages most of you wouldn't accept in the civilian world.

Civilian trained pilots have spent $50,000 or more to acquire the training that qualifies them for a Regional Airline job, which pays a wage less than the poverty level in most Western countries.

Most pilots do not attain the required experience level to be hired by a major airline until they are well passed the age of 30. The average age of a new hire airline pilot is 32.

Airline pilots are subject to random drug and alcohol testing any time they are at work. Fail a test and they lose their job and may face prosecution.

Airline pilots are required to undergo rigorous training and certification every 6, 9 or 12 months, at which time they could fail and lose their jobs, licenses and livelihoods.

Airline pilots are required to submit to random government "line checks" during which their license could be revoked and livelihood destroyed.

Airline pilots are exposed to radiation levels far exceeding the normal safe radiation limits mandated by the FDA.

Airline pilots are required to submit to a government medical examination every 6 months for Captains and every 12 month for First Officers. Year after year. Fail one and their career is over.

How many of you go to work where people try to kill you?

How many of you have had your office turned into a cruise missile?

How many of you work behind a bullet-proof door?

How many of you are responsible for the lives of 200-300 people, with any small mistake in your performance resulting in the death of your customers (and yourselves) and the financial destruction of your company?

How many of your jobs require you to fight your way through thunderstorms, rain, snow, ice and turbulence, day and night, year after year? No mistakes allowed. The excuse "I had a bad day at work" never accepted.

Many pilots volunteer on their own time and at their own expense to be trained as Federal Flight Deck Officers and to carry weapons to defend their aircraft, crew and passengers. They maintain their proficiency and qualifications twice a year on their own time and with their own money.

How many of you go to work where you are searched, patted down and your personal items scrutinized by strangers?

And remember that airline pilot pay scales and hours worked are usually posted by absurdly overcompensated managers who are waging a PR campaign against pilot unions and trying to justify their own greedy bonuses while asking for lower labor costs from others."

Author Unknown


Denny

skidmark 01-21-2009 12:33 PM

It was on CNN! It has too bee true right?

Pontius Pilot 01-21-2009 12:46 PM

Amen Denny Crane, Amen.

And Skidmark - yes, everything on CNN is true! I believe, I believe! Its as good as ShamWOW!

I just recently read an article on the radiation exposure we get...and I wasn't pleased. My wife read it and said, "I'm not OK with that."

DeadHead 01-21-2009 01:10 PM

I just find it ironic that a guy with the handle "Skidmark" has a avatar picture of the Shazam Guy advertising super-absorbent clean up wipes.
:)

Friking Classic !

TurboDVR42 01-21-2009 02:59 PM

well some of it is true...i do work less than 23 hours a week (no lay overs)
i am just little short on the annual income, mmmmmmmmm i wana say about 100k short :(

DeadHead 01-21-2009 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by evilboy (Post 542074)
And you think FOX would have reported it any different?

No, probably not...To be honest, between my weekly NRA Meetings where we talk about the Bible before going out to steal food and clothing from Atheist orphan babies, I usually don't have much time leftover to watch TV.

evilboy 01-21-2009 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 542366)
No, probably not...To be honest, between my weekly NRA Meetings where we talk about the Bible before going out to steal food and clothing from Atheist orphan babies, I usually don't have much time leftover to watch TV.

WHAT?!?!?......no Rush Limbaugh on your pick-up while stealing from atheist babies?. You're sliping man.

labbats 01-21-2009 06:32 PM

Pro Football players only work 2 hours a week.

Surgeons only work 10 hours a week.

Musicians only work 12 hours a week.

Blah, blah, blah.

I've stopped watching T.V. this week and my blood pressure has dropped dramatically. With so many 24 hour news stations and no news it's gotten out of hand.

kalyx522 01-21-2009 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 542233)

"When you see a pilot, he’s not getting paid.

When you see a pilot going through the same security you go through, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot walking in the terminal, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot at the gate pulling up the paper work, planning the flight, and conferring with the agent, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot walking around the aircraft doing a preflight inspection, he's not being paid.

When you board the aircraft and look in the cockpit and see the pilots setting up the flight deck, they're not getting paid.

When you land safely at your destination and walk off the aircraft and see the pilots shutting down the aircraft, they're not being paid.

When you see a pilot waiting for a ride to a hotel for the night, he's not being paid.

The only time the pilot of your aircraft is getting paid is when you DON’T see him ... when he's locked behind the cockpit door as you push back from the gate. Every thing else he does until this point is for free, for no wages, nothing!

The average airline pilot is at work 12-14 hours per day, yet gets paid for less than 6 or 7 hours.

The average airline pilot is away from home, at work, for 70+ hours a week, yet gets paid for only 15 to 18 hours per week.

Sometimes I really wonder about this... when I'm doing my walkarounds, or doing the paperwork... or sitting at the gate for 20 minutes waiting for push crew... I remember we were sitting there for quite a while and passengers were remarking, "you guys don't care, you're getting paid anyway" and the flight attendant told them that we weren't getting paid for any of that time. They were flabbergasted. (like they should be.) I mean even to the average traveling public it's obvious that that's considered work. I'm not even talking about having to sit around in the crew room during down time, but actual work like preflighting and paperwork... why are we not paid for this work? How did the tradition of getting paid only for block time begin?


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