Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543156)

Honestly folks, nearly each and every one of you needs to zip your childish lips. I've had it. If you are a regional pilot *****ing right now - shut up. If you are a CFI or airline pilot wannabe - shut up. This has to be one of the most retarded threads I have seen in a long time, and as you can see, I don't respond to many threads.

REGIONAL FOLKS - TELL ME WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF YOUR COMPANY WAS FLYING 70 SEATERS FOR MIDWEST. AFTER THAT, TELL ME AND THE WORLD HOW YOU INDIVIDUALLY WOULD HAVE KEPT IT FROM HAPPENING SO THAT WE ALL KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE FUTURE A BEAUTIFUL AND WONDERFUL PLACE WHERE THE SUN ALWAYS SHINES, AND UNICORNS GRAZE IN GREEN PASTURES.

ONLY RESPOND IF YOU HAVE A LOGICAL ANSWER THAT IS BELIEVABLE AND YOU COULD BE HELD TO IT. (I can't wait for the smart remarks, which will be ignored).

CFI AND AIRLINE PILOT WANNABES WHO LOVE TO THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING - I'LL BE HONEST, YOU'RE OPINION REALLY DOESN'T MEAN MUCH TO ME. (I APOLOGIZE, BUT BEING HONEST).

What's funny, as mentioned by a couple folks previously who were overlooked, is that it's the little people (regional guys) that are the ones bickering here, and it's stupid (and I fly for Chautauqua and the military). Don't you guys have anything else to do in this life? Do you show up at home after a trip, throw down a few and jump on the computer to spread your lame opinions and gossip?

Normally you guys are entertaining, but having done most jobs in the airline industry over 13 years for multiple companies and the government, I'm simply tired of your petty BS on this topic.

Rant over.

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543165)

Just out of curiosity what gives you the right to tell anyone to close their lips? What exactly puts you above everyone else in this board.

Here's a thought, if you don't like what you see don't open the thread, or don't read it once you see the direction. It's a public board, and anyone can post what they want.

Did you go to the rally in MKE? I love how you come on here throwing your resume around like it makes you better than anyone. In case you missed it, your CEO just set this segment of the industry back about 20 years, and this might just be the extend of your resume. You can send all your thank yous to Bedford.

Originally Posted by pxm21 (Post 543161)

Nirvana' until a few years from now when another airline is brought in by bedford to take over their flying, and they're posting on this very forum how wrong and evil that group is

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543169)

This coming from someone who says they're "On Top"...


Answer the questions in my post before you become all defensive.

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543175)

You don't get special treatment regardless of your resume. So again what gives you the right to tell everyone to close their lips?

To answer the question, I would not bid the lines, I would not come on a public forum defending a CEO that's in the same league as Lorenzo; and I would go support our brothers and sisters at the rallies, by the way did you do that? Did you go tell your management and Midwest's management to stick it, and show support for your fellow pilots in MKE?

So again, what gives you the right? You're not any different than any other anonimous poster, you don't have the right, it's called freedom of speech, you should look it up sometime.

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543177)

Who do you work for? Where have you picketed? How old ARE you? - 10? I was in the Middle East fighting for your right to be an idiot during the picketing. Is that good enough for your childishness?

Quit avoiding answering my questions - you're making yourself look worse and worse.

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543179)

You think fighting for our country allows you the right to insult everyone on this board and tell them to close their lips?

How about you answer my questions. No worried about how anything looks, just about the facts.

So tell me how do you feel about your CEO, knowing he just pulled a Lorenzo and personally put 300 brothers and sisters out on the street? Do you think that's honorable?

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543181)

PM me if you want to continue this.

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543184)

Answer the questions, here in the public forum that you insulted everyone on.

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543188)

Very well, let's go tit for tat...question for question.

Who do you fly for?

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543189)

Irrelevant to this conversation, but if bothers you so much do a search, I've never hidden the airline I work for.

How do you feel knowing that Bedford not only bought his way into a contract, but also put 300 folks on the street, all the while providing a way around a contract a Major/LCC?

See I'm willing to overlook the fact that you think you're better than everyone else, and that in your mind you believe you have the right to tell everyone to close their lips, as long as you address the questions regarding this topic. I think your trying to get this thread locked by insulting folks.

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543156)

Do you show up at home after a trip, throw down a few and jump on the computer to spread your lame opinions and gossip?

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543197)

I'm sorry, I am unable to take you seriously. Simply answer something and quick feeling so insuperior. Dude - I am no better than anyone else out there. I simply have seen more than the average bear from different perspectives - nothing else. It's an unfortunate byproduct of age. You'll see.

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543198)

What do you think you're doing now?

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543202)

Letting myself be suckered into a dumb conversation with a youngster who probably flys -152's because he is unwilling to answer a single question I've posted.

Watch this... you're next post will be a stupid rebuttal with BB in there or the word "furlough".

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543201)

... and working logistics and global finance for another 6 in the private sector, that my opinion is not any more versed or valuable than that of an 18 year old private pilot. Apparently you think yours is.

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543209)

You are a liar if you tell everyone you would take the opinion of a high school kid with one semester of studies in global finance serious if he tried to impose his theories and opinions on you...

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543213)

Think what you want, plenty of folks here know my identity as I work with them day in and day out. I'm not concerned about what you believe about me or not. But let's talk about he subject at hand.

Please answer the question about your CEO and Midwest, here it is again in case you missed it:

How do you feel knowing that Bedford not only bought his way into a contract, but also put 300 folks on the street, all the while providing a way around a contract at a Major/LCC?

And why do you keep trying to make this about me? Are you trying to get this thread closed?

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543214)

(You still haven't disclosed who you fly for...WHY?)

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543215)

Did I predict the future or what? Bedford, furloughs... You are the purest form of the definition of a broken record...

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543219)

I feel like it's crap.


Now you answer me.


How would you have stopped it before it happened?

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543226)

1. Picketted and rally

2. Inform the public, inform the potential pilots to stay away during this time of chaos and go elsewhere.

3. File a group grivance (which the union did already on both sides).

4. Not bid the base, so that it goes jr, potentially affecting the metrics.

5. Contact the media (only done by the midwest guys as per the circular, apparently no one at RAH the balls to go public with it).

6. Definitely would not come on a public board and defend a CEO who takes a page from Lorenzo's book on a board, sending the wrong message to prospective pilots.

You see everyone can make a difference.

Originally Posted by Fletch727 (Post 543228)

And you would have done this before the agreement was signed? How would you have found out about it before everyone else?


I'm done. I'll argue with you again another day on another post.

It's been fun... Cheers!

Originally Posted by Bond (Post 543233)

It's never fun watching a few hundred people go without a job, because a management team circumvented a contract handed to him by Bedford.

So by agreeing with me you contradicted your first post, by the way insulting people gives you zero credibility.