Countdown to the Mesa vs. Delta hearing on 01/30/2009
 

Something along these lines:

JO delivers some cash in a suitcase to RA's house about 2am. RA and Delta "misplace" important information, and JO's computer "crashes" yet again. Both show up in court and stare at the judge and just shrug. Both walk out, sharing a knowing smile.

Wash, rinse, repeat every few years.

There is a 50% chance of Delta winning, though the chances of that happening are only 50%.

if Delta wins, does Comair get the A/C back, drain the pool, and start hiring again? There's a 50% chance of that.

How will the judge decide? In previous decisions, statistics indicate it could go 50% for Delta or Mesa, but experience seems to suggest 50%

How is this running joke? I think 50% of you may get it, but I could be 50% wrong.

Well, what will happen to Mesa if they lose in this case?

They will lose the 20 million per month they get from Delta.

akA "I want to start a new mesa-bashing thread, lets start the hating!!"

Two months after that (or less if the FAA pulls their 121 cert for poor finances) they will probably be forced to attempt to file Ch.11. Under the new BK laws, this should require DIP financing IN ADVANCE. If they cannot find a sucker to dump large amounts of cash into MAG, they will go directly to liquidation.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
I wonder if "Tricky Dick" gets to keep the briefcase, or if he'll just leave in in seat 1A of the first CRJ-900 Mesa gets off Comair LOL

Absolutely nothing will happen. Mesa will never go away. This thread is pointless.

I know I'm going to stir the pot but came across this video that I'm sure some of you would want to see.....

YouTube - Regional Rivalry

My prediction for the fight????? Painnnnnnnnnnnn! :cool:

That just goes to show you the professionalism at that airline. I'm not even going to dignify that with an insult. It speaks for itself.

Now lets go back to the subject. Why do you think Mesa will win or lose?

As I said in a different thread. Delta wouldn't be pursuing this if they didn't think they would win. People are saying otherwise, but it's been quoted by the judge who issued the injunction, that the injunction was ONLY GRANTED because he DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE COMPANY OUT OF BUSINESS WITH ONE SWING OF THE GAVEL. He wanted all the information presented.

Again..Delta would NOT be pursuing this if they didn't think they would win, and Mesa has NO CHOICE but to fight it, because frankly...they most likely WILL go out of business without that $20 mil a month.

Andy's right, at first i posted that i thought there would be a settlement, but they would have reached one by now. DAL must really want the contract terminated, because of the resources they were willing to commit to this legal battle.

I don't think so, if that was the case..and Delta wasn't really serious about dumping Mesa. I think you would've seen Delta say to Mesa, OK...we'll renegotiate with you, get you for even cheaper..or we cancel..your choice.

But that didn't happen, the fact that it's been SIX months since the injunction (or so) and Delta went after those CRJ900s tells me that they mean business.

There's no proof that the video was actually made by mag pilots...

I agree after reading your post makes sense

never said i thought it was a pilot where did u get that from?

Chautauqua gave Delta the 135s back without a fight and "possibly" a verbal agreement that Delta would pursue the injunction. Maybe BB laid down the 135s because he knew that Delta kicking Mesa to the curb meant that there would be more Delta 175s, United 170s and a ton of Airways flying.. He knows more than we do or maybe I just had two bottles of wine and 4 Sierra Nevadas.

If anyone here really knew what they were talking about, they would know delta wants to cut capacity at the 50 seat regional level. However to do so, it is stipulated in the wholey owned contracts, (comair) that delta must make every attempt to rid of capacity at other regional airlines before they can drop it to a certain level there.

The injuction was granted because the judge felt that Mesa must have a compelling case...it's that simple. They stand a very realistic chance of winning the case. Doesn't mean they will, but there is a chance. No judge is going to refrain from banging the gavel out of pity for the other side. Will Mesa or Delta win? Who knows. Mesa probably has a better case than most would suspect...What I would be asking:

1.) Which judge is hearing this next case...is he/she the same judge who granted the injunction? What is their track record in such cases?

2.) What are the previous outcomes for cases like this where a business, such as Mesa in this case, won the injunction and went on to win the case?

It's a significant case because it has far-ranging implications for both parties. For Mesa, continuing revenue stream and trying to stay alive while money in this country is scarce. For Delta, this will set a precedent and will dictate how they'll continue to restructure their regional feed. In this sense, the final decision will also directly affect other regional airlines besides Mesa.

It is implied in the context...this is a pilot forum, and we are talking about pilots here.

"I reject the challenge, because Balboa is no challenge. But, I will be happy to beat up on him some more."

Clubber Lange

Don't forget, If Delta wins, that will set a precedent for everyone else, remember, United, USAIR and a few others are looking to dump Mesa but they are all waiting to see if Delta wins. If they do, and I hope like hell they do, look for some RFP's to go out.

How many planes and pilots for F8 for Delta? JFK and CVG are their bases?

The UAL RFP is already out, and several companies have responded.

Is that the IAD flying I keep hearing about? Any idea when and how many planes the contract is for?

Infact there's every bit of proof that it was made by a Comair pilot, but the average regional pilot is far too stupid to figure that out. :(

I was waiting for that one to come out of the woodwork. Thankyou Dead.

Give it a rest dude. Who cares about the video. Go fly your Mesa airplane for your subpar contract.

God forbid the truth is upheld! It's way more fun when we abandon the facts isn't it! Clown.

For what? This would be good news if it really was true.

Since it included turboprop flying out of DEN (among other things), the obvious assumption is that it is for the ex-mesa flying. It appears to be a precautionary thing, in case mag shuts down. I don't think UAL has immediate plans to fire mesa.

YouTube - Life at CVG

This one's pretty lame too. It's a bunch of pics with few hand held videos of whoever made the video following Delta pilots around terminals and filming them secretly.

look at his other video Think hes a Comair guy trying to start ****
insert foot into your mouth

Wah did somebody hijack your precious thread.:p

Maturity - in inability to let anyone get the last word. Did you get furloughed? Hope so.

Haha... Your day's coming too. T- 2 days and a wake up. Hope your getting as much time as you can now....

This seems like the last word to me,..it seems the higher road would be to just let him blab away immaturely and not give it your time or recognition.

Not to wish a furlough on someone...