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mach946 02-09-2009 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Colnago (Post 555524)
Mesa will NEVER go down. I'm sure no one will admit it but a lot of people will be celebrating the day they go under, if that EVER happens.


Yes it will truly be a glorious day when this happens. All the pilots will join hands and rejoice, for a new era in aviation history will arrive. No longer will management at the other regional airlines use MESA as the template to oppress and relegate pilots pay and schedules into oblivian. The NEW REGIONAL AIRLINE WORLD ORDER will usher in six figure pay scales, and twenty days off per month, with conjugal visits in the pilot lounges. There will be flow through agreements with the majors, but life will be so good, what pilot in his right mind would exercise this option? On the contrary the pilots at the majors will ask for reverse throughs. They will knash their teeth at how good life will be for us, and they will hate MESA even more for not going under sooner, so that may have partaken in our new glorious careers post MESA.

We will tell our children about the evil MESA empire, how we slaved and toiled under the ruthless Darth JO.


Happy days will soon be upon us :)

Blkflyer 02-09-2009 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by mach946 (Post 555562)
Yes it will truly be a glorious day when this happens. All the pilots will join hands and rejoice, for a new era in aviation history will arrive. No longer will management at the other regional airlines use MESA as the template to oppress and relegate pilots pay and schedules into oblivian. The NEW REGIONAL AIRLINE WORLD ORDER will usher in six figure pay scales, and twenty days off per month, with conjugal visits in the pilot lounges. There will be flow through agreements with the majors, but life will be so good, what pilot in his right mind would exercise this option? On the contrary the pilots at the majors will ask for reverse throughs. They will knash their teeth at how good life will be for us, and they will hate MESA even more for not going under sooner, so that may have partaken in our new glorious careers post MESA.

We will tell our children about the evil MESA empire, how we slaved and toiled under the ruthless Darth JO.


Happy days will soon be upon us :)

LOL I almost spilled my Red Stripe reading this.. lol

Diver Driver 02-09-2009 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 555571)
LOL I almost spilled my Red Stripe reading this.. lol

Yay beer!!!

Blkflyer 02-09-2009 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 555574)
Yay beer!!!

Trying to stimulate the World Economy bro....lol

Farva 02-09-2009 08:43 PM

I think right now the issue will be not just for Mesa but for any airline. Good management will make the company prevail. While I do not work for Mesa I do know that JO is a worthless piece of crap and brought on Paul Foley as the C.O.O because he has experience. The last thing Foley did was put XJ in a shame bankruptcy that we are just now starting to pull away from. Now I do not want to see fellow aviators on the street but I also look at things pretty realistic, JO is not good management there fore MESA is going to have a real hard time to stay afloat. my 2 cents going back to beer-a-pooloza

ToiletDuck 02-09-2009 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 555561)
Dont be so quick to point fingers.. I have said it about 4 times already Mesa winning the Delta issue is in the intrest of all Regionals if you guys cant see that oh well.

Fly safe yall

There are more than enough differences for these two instances to not even compete with one another. I'm not protecting any decisions of my management however I can still see the difference between RAH and a management associated with jail time, insider trading, illegally using inside confidential information to run someone out of business, deleting computers for "porn", and screwing their pilot group over with this incredible new contract.

As far as them staying around helps the industry I don't agree. Law of averages. When someone falls off the bottom the industry gets better just as someone that gets a new great contract at the top does.

Blkflyer 02-09-2009 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 555620)
There are more than enough differences for these two instances to not even compete with one another. I'm not protecting any decisions of my management however I can still see the difference between RAH and a management associated with jail time, insider trading, illegally using inside confidential information to run someone out of business, deleting computers for "porn", and screwing their pilot group over with this incredible new contract.

As far as them staying around helps the industry I don't agree. Law of averages. When someone falls off the bottom the industry gets better just as someone that gets a new great contract at the top does.

Keep dreaming if you dont see how this could be bad Ju Ju.. lets see Mesa Loses and Big D et al have case law now on their side.. so lets say they want to cut some Load that RAH is on contract for.. do you really trust your code share wont screw you. as for the performance take a look at the numbers yourself..

RITA | BTS | Transtats

ToiletDuck 02-09-2009 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 555642)
Keep dreaming if you dont see how this could be bad Ju Ju.. lets see Mesa Loses and Big D et al have case law now on their side.. so lets say they want to cut some Load that RAH is on contract for.. do you really trust your code share wont screw you. as for the performance take a look at the numbers yourself..

RITA | BTS | Transtats

Why do you assume that if DAL wins it's sets a precedence? Which one would that be? That DAL expects you to follow a contract? DAL said Mesa has to maintain certain numbers. If they can't maintain them then DAL has every right to exercise their agreed upon part of the contract. Point is they both agreed to the contract so let them both hold up their ends to it.

Blkflyer 02-09-2009 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 555645)
Why do you assume that if DAL wins it's sets a precedence? Which one would that be? That DAL expects you to follow a contract? DAL said Mesa has to maintain certain numbers. If they can't maintain them then DAL has every right to exercise their agreed upon part of the contract. Point is they both agreed to the contract so let them both hold up their ends to it.

Tell me what part of the contract Mesa didnt uphold...

Anyway have fun its getting late and I am out of Red Stripe..

iPilot 02-10-2009 05:45 AM

I think you guys are looking for that OTHER mesa thread regarding the Delta thing. This is about an entirely new way that Mesa has screwed themselves. For you folks worried about the contract precedent, you might get a 3rd way out. Mesa folds before a judgement!

Nah that will never happen, JO is just using this as a way to drag out until he really has to pay those bonds back hoping to win the case. Then they'll be flush with cash, hiring, and buying out RAH, XE, and then selling out to SKW. Yup, just you wait... :rolleyes:


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