Continental dropping Chautauqua?
 

Has anyone heard this rumor, that Continental is dropping Chautauqua or at least a good portion of there flying?

When the Leases expire for the train wreck operation of the CRJ's(airplane specific train-wreck, not due to the pilots) they will send em to the desert and not replace the flying

I really enjoyed my time in the IAH Weight Loss Program.

(July in IAH with a broken APU)

NO KIDDING! I remember helping my sister fly one of her babies back to CMH on them and I was very concerned with their health in that heat.

To the original poster I spoke with Larry and he said he likes CHQ a lot. Our recent numbers have put CHQ ahead of other regionals performance wise and that's with the CRJs.

In all fairness TD, it's a little easier to have better #'s when you don't have to fly out of Sewark.;) That being said, I'm pretty sure CHQ's #s are good. The few times I've ridden on them they've done well.

Very true but I can't imagine the pairings not being made with those delays built in. I fly in and out of there all the time for AMR and very rarely overblock.

edit: not worth it

Well, when I left at the end of 07 they were just starting to overblock a lot of the flights. Not all of them were overblocked though, and often a 3 hour groundstop blew the block time/DOT On-Time right out of the water anyway.

Keep in mind it's a lot easier for AA conn to squeak in there, while many XE RJs are stuck at outstations even after groundstops are lifted. The cap on arrivals often forces CAL to squeeze in International arrivals and larger aircraft arrivals over the RJs. Why misconnect 150 when you can just misconnect 50? Especially if they are International Connections. So the XE RJ EDCs just keep getting pushed back more and more. They don't restrict AA conn as much, because there are a lot less of you to fit in.;)

So you're saying your pairings aren't built with any of that in mind?

Yeah, no kidding. The ops at EWR cost XE their numbers month after month. I once had a day where we timed out before even getting off the ground for flight 1 of 4 that day...

Oh yeah, I had those days. Nothing like metering telling you #65 for departure and to MONITOR ground. They always emphasized monitor. I always hated timing out after a 8 hour delay and a 4 hour taxi. Nothing PO'd the pax more.

edit: not worth it

I don't need it explained to me how a regional operates out of a busy hub. We operate of out IAH, ATL, PHL, LGA, IAD, ORD, etc. I was simply saying that block times are built on historical averages. Therefore regardless of what happens it should be accounted for for the most part. Of course things will happen from time to time but then again that all just calculates into the grand scheme of things.

Doesn't really matter though as far as Larry goes he likes CHQ and wants to continue business. He did say he doesn't like seeing people DHDing around so I'll just keep my fingers crossed on my IAH 145 base :cool:

then dont make ignorant, uninformed statements and get surprised at the response

Fat kids annoy you?

All I said was that Larry likes CHQ and recent numbers showed the company has the best performance numbers. Find whatever reasons you want to justify it but doesn't change the accuracy of the statement. Sorry if that hurt your feelings for some reason. You can send me a PM showing how distraught you are if it's that big of an issue for you.

Can I ask, what kind of problems does CQH have with the CRJ? I work for AWAC and we do quite a mixed bag of flying, both short and longer stuff relatively (PHL-MSP which is 3+ hours, MKE etc.) and have never had a problem taking full pax and bags even with a second alt. Even shorter flight with the landing weight problems, I can't think of a time we had to bump someone off. I mean its been close sometimes, but it's always seemed to work out.

Yea he loves it so much hes adding flying! You must be kidding, between the w/b fiascos, the maintenance retardation and the sham operation on the hard stands I dont think larry has much love for s8888y kitty.

Dont forget the mighty e-170 in ind.

What's an APU? ;)

The CRJ's for COex are going away as planned from the beginning of the lease a couple years ago. By the beginning of 2010 pretty much all of the CRJ's will be gone. All of the CRJ's have had their faults worked since about the first year they were leased and they have been great planes. We have never left a passenger behind for weight issues in all the time I have flown them. CHQ will still have over 15 145's flying as COex for an unknown amount of time. No CHQ is not "losing" any flying that wasn't planned more than 2 years ago. Stop causing drama.

Larry likes CHQ
Doug and Richard love Mesa
Everyone loves GoJet

Bingo, I guess peoples minds are still stuck on first impressions. Once the kinks were worked out its not a bad operation.

The CRJs are going away as planned and most of the CO 145s have had the LR2 upgrade and won't be having any weight issues anymore. Also these problems were several years ago when CHQ first started operating the flights.

Are you saying they should add 3 hours to some of the legs in and out of Newark because they sometimes get a ridiculous ATC delay? Get real. It's New York airspace. That kind of stuff happens. Your little STL-EWR route does not make you an expert on EWR. Most of the big delays are from the closer cities anyways like New England, Pennsylvania, Maryland, DC, Virginia, and NC.

What's with this Larry said this Larry said that? Are you personal friends with him or something?

Yep, nothing like a 5 hour ground stop for BTV-EWR when the weather is down. Do people expect the airlines to add that in too? Or a thunderstorm hanging out over PARKE leaving you in the ballpark with the engines shut down. Yep, build that right in too! Amazing what some of these guys think...

What does that have to do anything? Yes RAH has ejets.

First off there are always exceptions. Airlines take everything into account though. If there was a 3hr delay every leg then it would be adjusted for that. It's called historical averaging. Several places actually have that in their contract. Should the avg block time exceed what's on paper by X% then they are readjusted. Of course not everything can be compensated for but that's what averages are. There are a lot of times where you underblock as well. Some overblock some underblock but it doesn't do your company any service to not try to account for average delays. We do fly for CAL out of LGA as well.

What's with Larry said this and Larry said that? All I did was say I spoke with him. Am I personal friends with him? No. However he takes interest in hearing things from different perspectives. I was jumpseating to MSP and he was in the terminal speaking with a gate agent. Walked up and he introduced himself.

4000+ posts?! Wow.:confused:

Larry told me he that we're gonna get E-190 and 757's and fly them out of new base in Redding, CA.

what was he going to tell you...of course he was going to say he liked you guys.

I got left behind trying to commute between MSP and IAH 4 times in 2 months for weight restrictions before the CRJ was pulled from the route...

hmm......well...

thats cool and all buddy, but the CHQ CRJ's don't fly to MSP.

I think he was the guy who just sold me scratch offs from the jiffy-mart?

They did at the beginning of their time at CAL. The aircraft performed so poorly (i.e. weight restricting to 38), so frequently, that they were pulled after two months. I thought the gate agents in MSP were going to quit.

He was being honest.

Yeah CEOs are notorious for being honest.

Jetpipe, they did have to pull that plane from some of those type routes. It's not a stab at your company or your pilots. The E-145XR simply out performs the CRJ-200..

At one time they did. They don't now because MSP complained so much because they were dishing out thousands of $$$$ in denied boarding compensation. That's not the pilots fault. They don't run the W&B program.

I find it funny I'm the only one who saw the guy and spoke with him yet others keep trying to tell me how it went down lol.

CAL now flies MSP mainline which it always should have been. The planes are full when I take them. They could have put an LR2 on it but I guess finally wised up. Next step they need to put a 73 on IAH-STL. Always full.

Looks like we finally agree on something. Those flights are ALWAYS oversold. It's ridiculous! Is that your commuting flight? That cannot be fun.