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Sir James 02-17-2009 09:18 PM

WSJ: Pilot action may have led to Q400 crash
 
Pilot Action May Have Led to Crash - WSJ.com

Investigators examining last week's Continental Connection plane crash have gathered evidence that pilot commands -- not a buildup of ice on the wings and tail -- likely initiated the fatal dive of the twin-engine Bombardier Q400 into a neighborhood six miles short of the Buffalo, N.Y., airport, according to people familiar with the situation.

ExperimentalAB 02-17-2009 09:26 PM

The stall could have been aggravated? Lord I hope not...

mjarosz 02-17-2009 09:35 PM

The latest theory I heard from my fellow Dash-8 pilots is the possibility of a deep stall being initiated from the initial 31 deg pitch up. Now what caused that pitch up is still very open for debate.

The Juice 02-17-2009 09:35 PM

Are we really starting threads about blaming the pilots before the NTSB has finished their jobs?

Lets have a little respect and not go down this road. We sit and talk how the media jumps on every opportunity to blame the pilots and now we are posting this on here?

If you were involved in a crash that killed you and others wouldn't you want your fellow pilots to give you the benefit of waiting until the investigation was done before posting negative speculation?

Purpleanga 02-17-2009 09:40 PM

WOW this is probably one of the worst reports that I have read on this accident, yet... He says in the article the NTSB is still investigating but the headline says:
Flight Data Show Response to Loss of Speed Resulted in Deadly Stall That Downed Plane


Wow.. un-freaking believable. And the whole article was speculation including the nice reference at the end of the 410 Pinnacle crash which has absolutley no similarity to this crash whatsoever. I'm thinking of responding to this moron who wrote this article.

Pilotpip 02-17-2009 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 561507)
Are we really starting threads about blaming the pilots before the NTSB has finished their jobs?

Lets have a little respect and not go down this road. We sit and talk how the media jumps on every opportunity to blame the pilots and now we are posting this on here?

If you were involved in a crash that killed you and others wouldn't you want your fellow pilots to give you the benefit of waiting until the investigation was done before posting negative speculation?

x2

Let the investigation be carried out. Stop buying the CNN/Fox News hype.

CRJPlt 02-17-2009 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 561507)
If you were involved in a crash that killed you and others wouldn't you want your fellow pilots to give you the benefit of waiting until the investigation was done before posting negative speculation?

Absolutely, well said. It's reports and things like these that lawyers crawl all over and start suing everybody and their mother before anything is even known, makes me SICK...

The Juice 02-17-2009 10:38 PM

This artice upset me so much I had to send off an email to both of the writers of this crap.

flyinaway411 02-17-2009 10:59 PM

if the article ****es you off, click the comments tab above it!

my brain hurts from the responses!! UGHHH

The Juice 02-17-2009 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by flyinaway411 (Post 561533)
if the article ****es you off, click the comments tab above it!

my brain hurts from the responses!! UGHHH

I did. I even just registered with WSJ online to post comments back but for whatever reason it is saying "error." I would love to take a few minutes to reply to all, especially the kid who plays Flight Sim and the guy who says "I am not a pilot but this explanation makes perfect sense to me."

I took it further and sent my anger in the form of an email to the writers of the junk.


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